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> Porscheru Engine Choices, 2.2, 2.5, or 3.0 ??
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post Mar 9 2015, 10:45 PM
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Building a Porsche 914 with Subaru power and transmission Porscheru. Looking for a donor car with a 5mt transmission. I've considered many engine combos. The 2.0 wrx turbo is very popular for this build at 227 hp but I want NA power without the turbo lag. I've narrowed it down to these combos:

EJ22 99-2001 142 horsepower. Less power than I would like, but easy to find a car with a stick shift and fewer head gasket problems. Good potential for additional power. Strong motor.

SOHC 2.5 1990-2004 165 HP. This is a good power range for the lightweight 914 (2,400lbs). Easy electronics. The negative is frequent HG problems. The donor car is hard to find with a stick shift. If I buy a donor car with an automatic tranny, which 5mt will fit, just match the year?

EZ30D 2000-2003 212 HP. The donor car will need a tranny. Which should I buy?

So the big question is which donor would you buy and why? I don't want to buy individual parts if I can avoid it because it's much more expensive and the combinations might not work well together. Individual parts are about $2,000 but I think I can get a donor for around $1500.
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post Mar 9 2015, 11:16 PM
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I went the EZ30D route. I bought parts piecemeal, which works well for the EZ30 beacuse all you really need from the donor is the engine and the harness. Transmission is not a huge deal because Subarus are like legos and any tranny fits any motor (pretty much).

I'm running a junkyard 5mt mated to mine with no issues but for two codes from the ECU for not having the auto plugged in, no effect on driveability however.

I would get the longest geared transmission you can find. I have a 4.11 final drive and revs are pretty high on the freeway.

The raw power is great, you will need to invest in a locking front diff for this powerplant. I have not yet and will spin one tire through third without it.

Downsides:
much more difficult to flip the manifold on than the 2.5's
not as easy to cool as the 2.5's (honestly not much of an issue though)
almost no aftermarket support
no good aftermarket headers (I just finished making a second set, my first set is yours for shipping if you want - posted in the classifieds


My view in hindsight: if you are going to go for the EZ30D, why not go for the EZ30R? marginally more work, you can find lower mileage motors, and a standalone ecu that can run the cams isn't THAT much more expensive, you get a bunch more power,and you won't have to spend 3 months combing through, weeding, and re-wiring the stock harness.

As a quick reference, I have spent ~5k on my conversion. 3k of that was offset by selling my old engine and transmission. I also spent about 1k too much for my engine.

most of the conversion parts are available from Coldwater914 and make everything pretty painless.
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R_u_dd   Porscheru Engine Choices   Mar 9 2015, 10:45 PM
rnellums   I went the EZ30D route. I bought parts piecemeal,...   Mar 9 2015, 11:16 PM
R_u_dd   Great info. Ian has info on the 30R and it sounds...   Mar 9 2015, 11:33 PM
rnellums   Great info. Ian has info on the 30R and it sound...   Mar 9 2015, 11:41 PM
gryphon68   I would get the longest geared transmission you c...   Mar 10 2015, 05:47 AM
Scarlet75   Posted this in the Nasioc forum: Building a Pors...   Mar 10 2015, 07:33 AM
brant   Posted this in the Nasioc forum: Building a Por...   Mar 10 2015, 07:38 AM
76-914   [quote name='Scarlet75' post='2157661' date='Mar ...   Mar 10 2015, 08:35 AM
R_u_dd   What auction site? The auction site I use ...   Mar 10 2015, 08:36 AM
Scarlet75   [quote name='Scarlet75' post='2157661' date='Mar ...   Mar 10 2015, 08:47 AM
R_u_dd   Ok this is what I did. I found an auto auction on ...   Mar 10 2015, 08:31 AM
Chris H.   BIGKAT_83 has an EZ30R engine he was thinking abou...   Mar 10 2015, 07:51 AM
gryphon68   BIGKAT_83 has an EZ30R engine he was thinking abo...   Mar 10 2015, 03:49 PM
DBCooper   The Canbus electrics have made it impossible to us...   Mar 10 2015, 09:18 AM
OU8AVW   I'm planning a Suby conversion on my '89 W...   Mar 10 2015, 10:31 AM
Scarlet75   I chose the self repair option. I am in no rush to...   Mar 10 2015, 11:22 AM
mepstein   I bought a running SVX for $500. For $10...   Mar 10 2015, 11:23 AM
76-914   The EZ30 is only 1.5" longer than the 2.5L 4 ...   Mar 10 2015, 03:14 PM
R_u_dd   The EZ30 is only 1.5" longer than the 2.5L 4...   Mar 10 2015, 07:04 PM
rnellums   The EZ30 is only 1.5" longer than the 2.5L ...   Mar 10 2015, 07:48 PM
partwerks   The EZ30 is only 1.5" longer than the 2.5L 4...   Aug 7 2022, 07:51 PM
porschetub   The EZ30 is only 1.5" longer than the 2.5L ...   Aug 7 2022, 10:39 PM
76-914   The EZ30 is only 1.5" longer than the 2.5L ...   Aug 8 2022, 09:52 AM
effutuo101   2004 2.5L NA motor would be an easy fix and instal...   Mar 10 2015, 03:44 PM
Chris H.   Right, the engine in his car is an EZ30D (the car ...   Mar 10 2015, 03:58 PM
Chris H.   It's very easy to use a manual trans with an E...   Mar 10 2015, 07:51 PM


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