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> Transaxle issue?, Feels like I'm running over speed bumps
rtalich
post Apr 17 2015, 10:18 AM
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Issue just started last night. Just starting out in first gear while slipping the clutch. Once clutch engages at lower RPMs it felt like I was rolling over speed bumps. At faster speeds it seemed fine. Now it is starting to happen more frequent but only at lower RPMs. I have not had a chance to diagnose yet. Anything in particular come to mind?

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post Apr 27 2015, 09:13 AM
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Finally had a chance to work on the car this weekend. Thanks for all your help guys! It was the rubber motor mounts. Both of them were sheared in half!!
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post Apr 27 2015, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(rtalich @ Apr 27 2015, 09:13 AM) *

Finally had a chance to work on the car this weekend. Thanks for all your help guys! It was the rubber motor mounts. Both of them were sheared in half!!


That is great that you found them!
When I took my engine out the last time I found both of mine broken as well.

However, the broken motor mounts should not cause the behavior that you describe all by themselves (more like a symptom than root cause)
Dont be too surprised if you find that the problem is still there after you replace them.

I would expect broken motor mounts to show thenselves more when starting/stopping or shifting, not driving smoothly over level ground.
Maybe I misunderstood your description of the problem.
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post Apr 27 2015, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(stugray @ Apr 27 2015, 08:52 AM) *

However, the broken motor mounts should not cause the behavior that you describe all by themselves (more like a symptom than root cause) ...


No, they will cause that behavior. BTDT. The whole drivetrain pivots up and down, slamming the mount brackets against the motor mount bar. WHAM WHAM WHAM WHAM! Most prevalent in 1st gear when the drivetrain is putting the most torque down.

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post Apr 27 2015, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Apr 27 2015, 07:48 PM) *

No, they will cause that behavior. BTDT. The whole drivetrain pivots up and down, slamming the mount brackets against the motor mount bar. WHAM WHAM WHAM WHAM! Most prevalent in 1st gear when the drivetrain is putting the most torque down.

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So do you think the engine is "hopping" up and down when it does this or twisting/rocking?

I remember driving my fathers TR4 that had a broken motor mount.
The symptom was: when making a right turn, the steering would not self center.
Because the engine was leaning up against the steering shaft - DOH!

Edit - just thought about this.
If both axles are torquing to push the car forward, then the engine is trying to raise upwards in the front.
So with a high HP engine, the front mounts need to hold the engine DOWN.
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post Apr 27 2015, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE(stugray @ Apr 27 2015, 10:19 PM) *

QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Apr 27 2015, 07:48 PM) *

No, they will cause that behavior. BTDT. The whole drivetrain pivots up and down, slamming the mount brackets against the motor mount bar. WHAM WHAM WHAM WHAM! Most prevalent in 1st gear when the drivetrain is putting the most torque down.

--DD


So do you think the engine is "hopping" up and down when it does this or twisting/rocking?

I remember driving my fathers TR4 that had a broken motor mount.
The symptom was: when making a right turn, the steering would not self center.
Because the engine was leaning up against the steering shaft - DOH!

Edit - just thought about this.
If both axles are torquing to push the car forward, then the engine is trying to raise upwards in the front.
So with a high HP engine, the front mounts need to hold the engine DOWN.

yep, no clutch drop starts or this happens.
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rtalich   Transaxle issue?   Apr 17 2015, 10:18 AM
ripper911   Loose lug bolts? My 911 was doing something sim...   Apr 17 2015, 10:24 AM
Dave_Darling   Loose or sheared motor mounts is something else to...   Apr 17 2015, 11:05 AM
rjames   Bad tire?   Apr 17 2015, 11:07 AM
McMark   Also could be a slipping clutch. Also, you could ...   Apr 17 2015, 01:40 PM
messix   Also could be a slipping clutch. Also, you could...   Apr 19 2015, 12:44 PM
rtalich   I think I may have found the problem. The ball jo...   Apr 19 2015, 11:47 AM
messix   I think I may have found the problem. The ball j...   Apr 19 2015, 12:42 PM
rtalich   I think I may have found the problem. The ball ...   Apr 19 2015, 01:05 PM
rhodyguy   Pelican, GPR? Might as well r&r the 2 sway bar...   Apr 19 2015, 11:57 AM
messix   this is the part. its bolted between the bracket o...   Apr 19 2015, 01:57 PM
Porsche930dude   check the tires for bulges you might have broken a...   Apr 19 2015, 03:09 PM
Dr Evil   I would be surprised if this was not external to t...   Apr 20 2015, 09:33 PM
stugray   I am surprised that no-one mentioned that you coul...   Apr 20 2015, 10:22 PM
Dr Evil   Ha! I thought the second post did. Nope, lug n...   Apr 21 2015, 07:00 AM
stugray   I had my first race last weekend and in the flurry...   Apr 21 2015, 07:07 AM
rtalich   Thanks everyone for the replies! When I did my...   Apr 21 2015, 07:13 AM
stugray   Did not find anything odd with the CV joints, tir...   Apr 21 2015, 08:55 AM
rtalich   Did not find anything odd with the CV joints, ti...   Apr 21 2015, 11:02 AM
rtalich   Finally had a chance to work on the car this weeke...   Apr 27 2015, 09:13 AM
stugray   Finally had a chance to work on the car this week...   Apr 27 2015, 09:52 AM
Dave_Darling   However, the broken motor mounts should not cause...   Apr 27 2015, 07:48 PM
stugray   No, they will cause that behavior. BTDT. The wh...   Apr 27 2015, 11:19 PM
messix   No, they will cause that behavior. BTDT. The w...   Apr 27 2015, 11:54 PM
Dave_Darling   So do you think the engine is "hopping...   Apr 28 2015, 08:05 PM
rhodyguy   :trophy:   Apr 27 2015, 09:28 AM
aircooledtechguy   You may consider solid mounting your motor so this...   Apr 27 2015, 02:18 PM
rtalich   You may consider solid mounting your motor so thi...   Apr 28 2015, 09:52 PM
messix   yup btdt too told ya so !   Apr 27 2015, 11:07 PM
sixnotfour   chain it down like a muscle car...chevy had a kit ...   Apr 28 2015, 09:46 PM
messix   chain it down like a muscle car...chevy had a kit...   Apr 28 2015, 09:50 PM
McMark   Take off the turbo and pin the throttle to only op...   Apr 28 2015, 11:32 PM
rtalich   Take off the turbo and pin the throttle to only o...   Apr 29 2015, 07:13 AM


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