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From what I have learned, little at most....
PDK is a dual clutch transmission that basically shifts ahead of you and is waiting for a click of the paddle to flip from one clutch to the other....the secondary clutch is already engaged and ready to go on any given gear....but its thinking ahead, certainly based on software and accel or decel mode.. So, who else is doing a dual clutch like this? Yes, this is a bit ADD (Scotty) but I am thinking ahead for when a clutch may no longer be a simple part of my daily routine. Does subaru do this, or audi (something I can transplant) or any other car that would not cost me an arm and a leg to transplant? And yes, I may want to flip the tranny, or possibly run it backwards....so mid or rear engine... Rich |
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Because I am cheap.
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Losing my mind... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,476 Joined: 26-May 06 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 6,073 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
Because I am cheap. I don't think there will be a cheap way to do this. If we can't figure out a simple/cheap way to mate a manual Boxster trans to an air cooled engine, I can't even imagine how much more complicated this would be. The PDK type trans is fully integrated with the engine management system, which is fully integrated with the engine (obviously). They work as a unit, not individually, so I'm not even sure it would be possible without doing both. Honestly, the cheapest option would be to buy a very cheap Boxster Tiptronic (which can be had for under $10k) and use all of engine/trans/wiring/ECU for it. |
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Because I am cheap. I don't think there will be a cheap way to do this. If we can't figure out a simple/cheap way to mate a manual Boxster trans to an air cooled engine, I can't even imagine how much more complicated this would be. The PDK type trans is fully integrated with the engine management system, which is fully integrated with the engine (obviously). They work as a unit, not individually, so I'm not even sure it would be possible without doing both. Honestly, the cheapest option would be to buy a very cheap Boxster Tiptronic (which can be had for under $10k) and use all of engine/trans/wiring/ECU for it. A few things.... I am looking for a rear engine solution, but if a boxster tranny is available for a setup, I will design and figure out what needs to be done to bolt it to our motor. Its a bell housing that needs to be swapped over and a clutch/pressure plate we need to use that works with the motor.... For the PDK, yes, its integrated with the car, but it has its own computer and its reading throttle body, speed, and a few other sensors that could all be setup using a different interface. Again, I am NOT looking for the porsche PDK tranny...I am looking for something cheaper like a subaru/toyota/whatever to be able to create a solution that will actually work.... I know I could buy a PDK and at that point it makes sense to buy a late model 911 and call it a day... That defeats the purpose. Let me see if I can get my hands on a boxster tranny and get that settled because I am tired of waiting for someone to do it for us. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) rich |
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Spooling.... Please wait ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California ![]() ![]() |
Because I am cheap. I don't think there will be a cheap way to do this. If we can't figure out a simple/cheap way to mate a manual Boxster trans to an air cooled engine, I can't even imagine how much more complicated this would be. The PDK type trans is fully integrated with the engine management system, which is fully integrated with the engine (obviously). They work as a unit, not individually, so I'm not even sure it would be possible without doing both. Honestly, the cheapest option would be to buy a very cheap Boxster Tiptronic (which can be had for under $10k) and use all of engine/trans/wiring/ECU for it. A few things.... I am looking for a rear engine solution, but if a boxster tranny is available for a setup, I will design and figure out what needs to be done to bolt it to our motor. Its a bell housing that needs to be swapped over and a clutch/pressure plate we need to use that works with the motor.... For the PDK, yes, its integrated with the car, but it has its own computer and its reading throttle body, speed, and a few other sensors that could all be setup using a different interface. Again, I am NOT looking for the porsche PDK tranny...I am looking for something cheaper like a subaru/toyota/whatever to be able to create a solution that will actually work.... I know I could buy a PDK and at that point it makes sense to buy a late model 911 and call it a day... That defeats the purpose. Let me see if I can get my hands on a boxster tranny and get that settled because I am tired of waiting for someone to do it for us. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) rich Rear engine solution? Grab a FWD setup and flip the diff... A3's used a DSG IIRC. |
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Because I am cheap. I don't think there will be a cheap way to do this. If we can't figure out a simple/cheap way to mate a manual Boxster trans to an air cooled engine, I can't even imagine how much more complicated this would be. The PDK type trans is fully integrated with the engine management system, which is fully integrated with the engine (obviously). They work as a unit, not individually, so I'm not even sure it would be possible without doing both. Honestly, the cheapest option would be to buy a very cheap Boxster Tiptronic (which can be had for under $10k) and use all of engine/trans/wiring/ECU for it. A few things.... I am looking for a rear engine solution, but if a boxster tranny is available for a setup, I will design and figure out what needs to be done to bolt it to our motor. Its a bell housing that needs to be swapped over and a clutch/pressure plate we need to use that works with the motor.... For the PDK, yes, its integrated with the car, but it has its own computer and its reading throttle body, speed, and a few other sensors that could all be setup using a different interface. Again, I am NOT looking for the porsche PDK tranny...I am looking for something cheaper like a subaru/toyota/whatever to be able to create a solution that will actually work.... I know I could buy a PDK and at that point it makes sense to buy a late model 911 and call it a day... That defeats the purpose. Let me see if I can get my hands on a boxster tranny and get that settled because I am tired of waiting for someone to do it for us. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) rich Rear engine solution? Grab a FWD setup and flip the diff... A3's used a DSG IIRC. That's the same one the GTI has. That thing is AMAZING. 6 speed. The A4 has a similar 7 speed. I'd totally re-swap my setup for that gearbox, that's how good it is. The engine's not bad either... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . Sounds like it might be above my technical skill level... |
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