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> PDK Transmission, who else does this
r_towle
post Apr 27 2015, 02:58 PM
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From what I have learned, little at most....

PDK is a dual clutch transmission that basically shifts ahead of you and is waiting for a click of the paddle to flip from one clutch to the other....the secondary clutch is already engaged and ready to go on any given gear....but its thinking ahead, certainly based on software and accel or decel mode..

So, who else is doing a dual clutch like this?
Yes, this is a bit ADD (Scotty) but I am thinking ahead for when a clutch may no longer be a simple part of my daily routine.

Does subaru do this, or audi (something I can transplant) or any other car that would not cost me an arm and a leg to transplant?

And yes, I may want to flip the tranny, or possibly run it backwards....so mid or rear engine...

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post Apr 27 2015, 08:49 PM
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Because I am cheap.
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Apr 27 2015, 10:49 PM) *

Because I am cheap.

I don't think there will be a cheap way to do this. If we can't figure out a simple/cheap way to mate a manual Boxster trans to an air cooled engine, I can't even imagine how much more complicated this would be.

The PDK type trans is fully integrated with the engine management system, which is fully integrated with the engine (obviously). They work as a unit, not individually, so I'm not even sure it would be possible without doing both.

Honestly, the cheapest option would be to buy a very cheap Boxster Tiptronic (which can be had for under $10k) and use all of engine/trans/wiring/ECU for it.

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QUOTE(naro914 @ Apr 28 2015, 11:44 AM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ Apr 27 2015, 10:49 PM) *

Because I am cheap.

I don't think there will be a cheap way to do this. If we can't figure out a simple/cheap way to mate a manual Boxster trans to an air cooled engine, I can't even imagine how much more complicated this would be.

The PDK type trans is fully integrated with the engine management system, which is fully integrated with the engine (obviously). They work as a unit, not individually, so I'm not even sure it would be possible without doing both.

Honestly, the cheapest option would be to buy a very cheap Boxster Tiptronic (which can be had for under $10k) and use all of engine/trans/wiring/ECU for it.

A few things....

I am looking for a rear engine solution, but if a boxster tranny is available for a setup, I will design and figure out what needs to be done to bolt it to our motor.
Its a bell housing that needs to be swapped over and a clutch/pressure plate we need to use that works with the motor....

For the PDK, yes, its integrated with the car, but it has its own computer and its reading throttle body, speed, and a few other sensors that could all be setup using a different interface.

Again, I am NOT looking for the porsche PDK tranny...I am looking for something cheaper like a subaru/toyota/whatever to be able to create a solution that will actually work....

I know I could buy a PDK and at that point it makes sense to buy a late model 911 and call it a day...
That defeats the purpose.

Let me see if I can get my hands on a boxster tranny and get that settled because I am tired of waiting for someone to do it for us. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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QUOTE(r_towle @ Apr 28 2015, 11:52 AM) *




Let me see if I can get my hands on a boxster tranny and get that settled because I am tired of waiting for someone to do it for us. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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I found the Boxster drawing, now to find the /6 or /4 bell housing equivalent drawing with dimensions.

....edit...found some 3D models of some Porsche air-cooled transmissions.

3D model of a G50

Is is safe to say that a G50 would bolt up to a Type IV?

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r_towle   PDK Transmission   Apr 27 2015, 02:58 PM
Mike Bellis   The Audi DSG has been around for a few years. You ...   Apr 27 2015, 03:03 PM
r_towle   thanks, Looks like 2008 and on are available. I ...   Apr 27 2015, 03:10 PM
Mike Bellis   thanks, Looks like 2008 and on are available. I...   Apr 27 2015, 05:56 PM
Andyrew   [quote name='r_towle' post='2179575' date='Apr 27...   Apr 27 2015, 06:19 PM
Mike Bellis   Mike, thats a R8.... :) I know! How awesome...   Apr 27 2015, 06:39 PM
Andyrew   Mike, thats a R8.... :) I know! How awesom...   Apr 28 2015, 01:23 PM
balljoint   We had one in the Golf TDI.   Apr 27 2015, 04:28 PM
Mike Bellis   Both the DSG and PDK are massive chunks weighing a...   Apr 27 2015, 06:04 PM
914forme   I ran the VW Tip in a TDI, and it worked well when...   Apr 27 2015, 07:42 PM
r_towle   Sorry, thinking about a luxury, cruiser, 356 So re...   Apr 27 2015, 08:41 PM
Mike Bellis   Then why not just use the PDK or triptronic out of...   Apr 27 2015, 08:44 PM
r_towle   Because I am cheap.   Apr 27 2015, 08:49 PM
naro914   Because I am cheap. I don't think there will...   Apr 28 2015, 09:44 AM
r_towle   Because I am cheap. I don't think there wil...   Apr 28 2015, 12:52 PM
naro914   Let me see if I can get my hands on a boxster tra...   Apr 28 2015, 01:00 PM
Andyrew   [quote name='naro914' post='2179902' date='Apr 28...   Apr 28 2015, 01:24 PM
Chris H.   [quote name='naro914' post='2179902' date='Apr 2...   Apr 28 2015, 03:20 PM
Mueller   Let me see if I can get my hands on a boxster ...   Apr 29 2015, 11:06 AM
Mike Bellis   If you want a performance automatic, you can't...   Apr 27 2015, 09:10 PM
drive-ability   I am running a G-50 5 speed but really want an aut...   Apr 28 2015, 01:14 AM
bandjoey   Why dual clutch? Paddle shifters are becoming a s...   Apr 28 2015, 08:04 AM
r_towle   Why dual clutch? Paddle shifters are becoming a ...   Apr 28 2015, 08:18 AM
Andyrew   Why dual clutch? Paddle shifters are becoming a ...   Apr 28 2015, 01:27 PM
Vacca Rabite   Sccob paddle shifters are just CVTs that use the p...   Apr 28 2015, 09:16 AM
Chris H.   Weird. Friend of mine just bought a pretty new GT...   Apr 28 2015, 09:43 AM
Mike Bellis   034 Motorsport told me they could build a DSG that...   Apr 28 2015, 04:01 PM
Andyrew   A DSG would be great for a big turbo application, ...   Apr 28 2015, 04:09 PM
drive-ability   I wonder how the PDK or others like it modulate ta...   Apr 29 2015, 12:57 AM
Mike Bellis   I wonder how the PDK or others like it modulate t...   Apr 29 2015, 07:57 AM


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