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Type 4 Race Engine, on our test stand |
ChrisFoley |
May 1 2015, 11:21 AM
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stugray |
May 4 2015, 11:57 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,825 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
I'm pretty sure that if you asked 10 race car drivers to pick from two race cars and the only thing they know about them is the HP, they would all pick the car with the higher HP rating.....
So is HP the only thing that matters in racing - No. But I am fairly certain that if everything else is the same (drivers, suspension, tires), the higher HP car usually wins... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) But I agree a car that puts out insane HP is useless if it cant put that power down in a predictable and repeatable fashion. Still curious what that particular engine has in it. I know Jake's first answer for higher output engines is "Nickies", but I cant tell if that engine has them from the pic. Forged Pistons - guessing yes (brand?) Larger valves? I have read where Jake says 'minimal benefit' for a 2.0L Flow matched heads - but of course Stock forged crank or Billet - ? H or I-beam rods - ? Radical Cam (valve lift & duration numbers?) Roller rockers? Lightened crank/rods/Flywheel? - can help with "apparent HP" but what about real numbers on a dyno? Compression Ratio? Twin Plugs - ? (dist in picture says no) |
Kansas 914 |
May 4 2015, 01:01 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,999 Joined: 1-March 03 From: Durango, Colorado Member No.: 373 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I'm pretty sure that if you asked 10 race car drivers to pick from two race cars and the only thing they know about them is the HP, they would all pick the car with the higher HP rating..... So is HP the only thing that matters in racing - No. But I am fairly certain that if everything else is the same (drivers, suspension, tires), the higher HP car usually wins... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) But I agree a car that puts out insane HP is useless if it cant put that power down in a predictable and repeatable fashion. Still curious what that particular engine has in it. I know Jake's first answer for higher output engines is "Nickies", but I cant tell if that engine has them from the pic. Forged Pistons - guessing yes (brand?) Larger valves? I have read where Jake says 'minimal benefit' for a 2.0L Flow matched heads - but of course Stock forged crank or Billet - ? H or I-beam rods - ? Radical Cam (valve lift & duration numbers?) Roller rockers? Lightened crank/rods/Flywheel? - can help with "apparent HP" but what about real numbers on a dyno? Compression Ratio? Twin Plugs - ? (dist in picture says no) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
aircooledtechguy |
May 4 2015, 01:36 PM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I'm pretty sure that if you asked 10 race car drivers to pick from two race cars and the only thing they know about them is the HP, they would all pick the car with the higher HP rating..... So is HP the only thing that matters in racing - No. But I am fairly certain that if everything else is the same (drivers, suspension, tires), the higher HP car usually wins... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) But I agree a car that puts out insane HP is useless if it cant put that power down in a predictable and repeatable fashion. Still curious what that particular engine has in it. I know Jake's first answer for higher output engines is "Nickies", but I cant tell if that engine has them from the pic. Forged Pistons - guessing yes (brand?) Larger valves? I have read where Jake says 'minimal benefit' for a 2.0L Flow matched heads - but of course Stock forged crank or Billet - ? H or I-beam rods - ? Radical Cam (valve lift & duration numbers?) Roller rockers? Lightened crank/rods/Flywheel? - can help with "apparent HP" but what about real numbers on a dyno? Compression Ratio? Twin Plugs - ? (dist in picture says no) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Really?? You all expect a detailed answer about an engine recipe?? Do you ask David Copperfield or Penn & Teller how they do their tricks?? You don't become and stay successful telling the world your trade secrets. . . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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