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> Fuel Injector Going Bad?, FIXED - Thanks 914 World!
saigon71
post Jun 10 2015, 07:32 PM
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74 2.0 D-Jet. Car is in a fine state of tune. Verified fuel pressure at 30 PSI. Removed distributor, cleaned & lubed advance plates and tested vacuum canister. Verified TPS is set correctly. MPS tested fine. ORIGINAL fuel injection harness. I went around the engine bay today and re-seated all FI related connections. The injectors are in unknown condition - came with the car.

This is different than the bucking I used to experience. I intermittently have a cylinder drop off. It happens at all speeds, but is really noticeable at idle. I had it running for a while in my driveway tonight and the exhaust fumes spelled especially "gassy."

When it's not missing, it runs fantastic and idles perfectly.

I think I have a fuel injector going bad. Can they fail intermittently? Anyone else experience something like this?

I figured I would just pull all four injectors, run the fuel pump and measure the fuel...but I'm not sure I could find the faulty one if it functions correctly during the test.

Pretty boring video (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Engine starts running rough intermittently at :40 (engine bay sound) and 2:07 exhaust.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQoMS-NeOag...eature=youtu.be

Any advice is appreciated.
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post Jul 8 2015, 07:33 PM
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Well, the problem is fixed!

I filled up the tank last night and checked my gas mileage - 22 MPG. I normally get about 28. The car was running rich at all times...idle would drop to about 250 RPM.

Before popping on a new Blowsby FI harness, I wanted to rule everything else out first. Jim gave me a loaner ECU so I swapped it out today - no difference.

I went back to the good old d-jet bible in the troubleshooting section under "my car runs rich and I don't know why" for a comprehensive list of things to check.

http://members.rennlist.com/pbanders/DJetParts.htm

Ran through the list one by one - nothing helped. Then I got to the trigger points. Several world members indicated that they may be the problem. I had previously assumed these were not the problem because I cleaned and inspected them over the winter when I cleaned & lubed the disty.

Well, some grease from the lube job had collected on the trigger points. I swapped them out with another clean set, started the car and reset the timing/dwell. She is running as good as ever again! I think my old trigger points will be fine with a good cleaning - I'll test the theory next time I have the dizzy out.

I've spent a few very frustrating weeks on this...lesson learned - don't rule anything out because you "just serviced it." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

Thanks for all of the advice on this topic - much appreciated. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

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QUOTE(saigon71 @ Jul 8 2015, 09:33 PM) *

Well, the problem is fixed!

I filled up the tank last night and checked my gas mileage - 22 MPG. I normally get about 28. The car was running rich at all times...idle would drop to about 250 RPM.

Before popping on a new Blowsby FI harness, I wanted to rule everything else out first. Jim gave me a loaner ECU so I swapped it out today - no difference.

I went back to the good old d-jet bible in the troubleshooting section under "my car runs rich and I don't know why" for a comprehensive list of things to check.

http://members.rennlist.com/pbanders/DJetParts.htm

Ran through the list one by one - nothing helped. Then I got to the trigger points. Several world members indicated that they may be the problem. I had previously assumed these were not the problem because I cleaned and inspected them over the winter when I cleaned & lubed the disty.

Well, some grease from the lube job had collected on the trigger points. I swapped them out with another clean set, started the car and reset the timing/dwell. She is running as good as ever again! I think my old trigger points will be fine with a good cleaning - I'll test the theory next time I have the dizzy out.

I've spent a few very frustrating weeks on this...lesson learned - don't rule anything out because you "just serviced it."

Thanks for all of the advice on this topic - much appreciated. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

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Awesome! Congratulations!
Glad it was that simple, many times it's the simple one that's hard to find, or we dismiss it and don't go back and recheck it ! I spent 3 months trying to figure out a similar issue and ended up just putting in new cap and rotor, that was the issue!
Now drive it lime you stole it!
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saigon71   Fuel Injector Going Bad?   Jun 10 2015, 07:32 PM
Mblizzard   I would suggest disconnecting the injectors one at...   Jun 10 2015, 07:46 PM
mepstein   If the injectors have never been cleaned, consider...   Jun 10 2015, 08:07 PM
Cj Honeycutt   If the injectors have never been cleaned, conside...   Jun 12 2015, 06:59 PM
Mark Henry   The quick and dirty is to remove the wire one inje...   Jun 11 2015, 05:30 AM
jim_hoyland   Connections /connectors at the injectors was a pro...   Jun 11 2015, 06:09 AM
Philip W.   i had a similar issue with my75 d-jet and thought ...   Jun 11 2015, 06:45 AM
r_towle   I have had the following. Loose electrical connec...   Jun 11 2015, 06:54 AM
r_towle   duplicate   Jun 11 2015, 06:54 AM
dlee6204   [quote name='mepstein' post='2197405' date='Jun 1...   Jun 12 2015, 07:42 PM
mepstein   [quote name='mepstein' post='2197405' date='Jun ...   Jun 12 2015, 07:54 PM
kertwerks   Group, I've used the original bosch dizzy and...   Jun 14 2015, 09:57 PM
saigon71   Thanks for the responses. The trigger points were...   Jun 15 2015, 06:15 AM
mepstein   Use a $6 usps priority box and you might have...   Jun 15 2015, 06:40 AM
dlee6204   I've used Mr. Injector several times for a cou...   Jun 15 2015, 07:45 AM
saigon71   I believe I have eliminated everything but the ECU...   Jun 28 2015, 02:24 PM
BeatNavy   Hey Bob - sorry to hear you're still chasing t...   Jun 28 2015, 03:34 PM
mepstein   I'll ship you the ecu and harness from my ...   Jun 28 2015, 03:59 PM
saigon71   I'll ship you the ecu and harness from my ...   Jun 28 2015, 09:18 PM
Ian Stott   When you tested your fuel pressure and you said it...   Jun 28 2015, 04:53 PM
BeatNavy   When you tested your fuel pressure and you said i...   Jun 28 2015, 05:05 PM
saigon71   When you tested your fuel pressure and you said ...   Jun 28 2015, 09:14 PM
914Mels   Another possible problem would be the trigger poin...   Jun 29 2015, 02:37 PM
saigon71   Well, the problem is fixed! I filled up the...   Jul 8 2015, 07:33 PM
Philip W.   Well, the problem is fixed! I filled up th...   Jul 8 2015, 07:59 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Great News Bob! Glad it worked out for you an...   Jul 8 2015, 08:44 PM


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