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BeatNavy
post Jul 26 2015, 03:52 PM
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2056 with D-jet. After reading some of the recent oil temperature threads I decided I should probably check how I'm running. Don't have gauge, but I had my dipstick thermometer that was still in my old 1.7L engine. After 20 minutes of spirited driving around the neighborhood in 88 degree weather I was a little distressed to see temps on that gauge running close to 240. Yikes! Maybe not an emergency, but not optimum either. So this weekend I:

-made sure I had right amount of oil (running Joe Gibbs 20W50 right now)
-made sure all the engine tin/warm air guides and heater components are in place (I had removed some of this a month ago when fixing the heat exchangers)
-checked and reset timing (was probably advanced a little too much),
-temporarily disconnected the thermostat cable from the top so the flaps are, in theory, always in max cooling position.

None of this seemed to help. Funny thing is my head temps are normally cool. Driving around town (lots of costing and downshifting at lights) keep me in the 270-280 range, and the only time I ever really north of 300 degrees is when I'm going up a hill or if I'm running a few miles at 65 to 70 mph (and then it maybe gets to 335) out on the "freeway." Car is running great otherwise.

So I'm wondering if the flaps truly are working. When I had the engine out a few months I definitely made sure, but I don't know if something is sticking or what. Right now that's my only working theory on why my head temps are cool to normal and the oil temp is warm to hot.

Any thoughts? Any good way to verify flap operation without completely removing the tin (something I don't relish doing with the engine in the car).

Also, engine came with this oil temp sending unit installed (below). It's definitely the source of one of my minor oil leaks. Anybody recognize it? I'd like to go ahead and install a gauge that works with this sending unit, and also see what I need to do to stop the leak.

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TIA, fellas.

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post Jul 26 2015, 06:29 PM
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His billet taco plate looks like the one that Jonesy out of the UK was selling. I have one in my basement. The threads are the same but they are perpendicular instead of being at an angle. Beat Navy are you using the factory OE sender or the shorter one?

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post Jul 26 2015, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE(Harpo @ Jul 26 2015, 08:29 PM) *

His billet taco plate looks like the one that Jonesy out of the UK was selling. I have one in my basement. The threads are the same but they are perpendicular instead of being at an angle. Beat Navy are you using the factory OE sender or the shorter one?

David

Hi David - I don't know what sender I'm using. It came with the engine. That's two votes for "Jonesy's taco plate." Any thoughts on what gauges (other than OEM) will work with that? It was reading about 2K of resistance ambient and then around 12 ohms when it was hot (roughly 240 degrees). Or am I better off just getting another gauge/sending unit that fits that "taco" plate?

Thanks for everyone's help.

QUOTE(porschetub @ Jul 26 2015, 08:20 PM) *

Hi Beatnavy,thats getting warm....or is it,check to make sure the gauge is rated to the sendor,example 150C max gauge must use 150C sender,then get your cooling flaps/thermostat sorted ASAP,cheers.

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QUOTE(BeatNavy @ Jul 27 2015, 01:08 PM) *

QUOTE(Harpo @ Jul 26 2015, 08:29 PM) *

His billet taco plate looks like the one that Jonesy out of the UK was selling. I have one in my basement. The threads are the same but they are perpendicular instead of being at an angle. Beat Navy are you using the factory OE sender or the shorter one?

David

Hi David - I don't know what sender I'm using. It came with the engine. That's two votes for "Jonesy's taco plate." Any thoughts on what gauges (other than OEM) will work with that? It was reading about 2K of resistance ambient and then around 12 ohms when it was hot (roughly 240 degrees). Or am I better off just getting another gauge/sending unit that fits that "taco" plate?

Thanks for everyone's help.

QUOTE(porschetub @ Jul 26 2015, 08:20 PM) *

Hi Beatnavy,thats getting warm....or is it,check to make sure the gauge is rated to the sendor,example 150C max gauge must use 150C sender,then get your cooling flaps/thermostat sorted ASAP,cheers.

Welcome to the World, porschetub! Glad to see you made the trip over from the Bird!


Yea thanks,thought it was time for the move,enjoying it so far,lots on here know way more about my car that i do (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) .
I have always liked VDO stuff,buy a matched gauge and sender to suit the temp range you need and go from there,you need to sort this to set a baseline for further work into your problem.
Coolers......I swapped my 911 cooler for one modded for a 914/6,it had been cleaned by PO the cheap and nasty way,I had it ultrasonically cleaned and they said it was filthy,really worth doing if you can't fully sort your problem by other means,cheers.
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BeatNavy   More Oil Temperature Questions   Jul 26 2015, 03:52 PM
Vacca Rabite   Flaps are working or your heads would be roasting....   Jul 26 2015, 03:57 PM
Porschef   What have you got to measure head and oil temps? I...   Jul 26 2015, 04:47 PM
BeatNavy   Thanks Zach, thanks Porschef. Zach, so you don...   Jul 26 2015, 05:04 PM
SLITS   Sender is specific to the gauge ... never seen tha...   Jul 26 2015, 05:16 PM
BeatNavy   Hey Ron - I replaced the oil cooler seals when I h...   Jul 26 2015, 05:40 PM
Mark Henry   Hey Ron - I replaced the oil cooler seals when I ...   Jul 26 2015, 06:09 PM
BeatNavy   The taco plate for the sender is odd, factory tac...   Jul 26 2015, 06:25 PM
messix   run 10-40 or 10-30 and let the oil run through th...   Jul 26 2015, 06:18 PM
porschetub   Hi Beatnavy,thats getting warm....or is it,check t...   Jul 26 2015, 06:20 PM
messix   good reading here http://www.smartsynthetics.com/m...   Jul 26 2015, 06:21 PM
Java2570   Looks like your taco plate is one of Jonesy's ...   Jul 26 2015, 06:26 PM
Harpo   His billet taco plate looks like the one that Jone...   Jul 26 2015, 06:29 PM
BeatNavy   His billet taco plate looks like the one that Jon...   Jul 26 2015, 07:08 PM
porschetub   His billet taco plate looks like the one that Jo...   Jul 26 2015, 07:30 PM
BeatNavy   The Jonesy "taco plate" makes additional...   Jul 26 2015, 07:15 PM
mikedsilva   if any of you are selling one of those billet taco...   Jul 26 2015, 07:18 PM
Mblizzard   Cheap easy check. Buy a USB camera from Amazon an...   Jul 27 2015, 05:12 AM
BeatNavy   Cheap easy check. Buy a USB camera from Amazon a...   Jul 27 2015, 04:11 PM
Philip W.   the temps you are seeing are similar to the temps ...   Jul 27 2015, 06:45 AM
Mblizzard   the temps you are seeing are similar to the temps...   Jul 27 2015, 04:20 PM
Philip W.   the temps you are seeing are similar to the temp...   Jul 28 2015, 08:49 AM
914itis   I know that others may not agree, but the oil weig...   Jul 28 2015, 08:56 AM
BeatNavy   Now I run under 200 . You noticed it dropped bac...   Jul 28 2015, 09:29 AM
Mark Henry   I know that others may not agree, but the oil wei...   Jul 28 2015, 09:42 AM
914itis   I know that others may not agree, but the oil we...   Jul 28 2015, 09:49 AM
Jake Raby   Ambient temps and gearing heavily impact oil tempe...   Jul 28 2015, 11:42 AM
Mark Henry   Ambient temps and gearing heavily impact oil temp...   Jul 29 2015, 06:17 AM
BeatNavy   Ambient temps and gearing heavily impact oil tem...   Jul 29 2015, 06:39 AM
Philip W.   [quote name='Mark Henry' post='2216191' date='Jul...   Jul 29 2015, 07:09 AM
saigon71   I run my 2.0 D-jet with a stock cooling system pre...   Jul 28 2015, 08:08 PM
Geezer914   I run Brad Penn 15/40w and added a Scat 1.5 qt. su...   Jul 28 2015, 08:42 PM
BeatNavy   I don't think the oil cooler was in bad shape....   Jul 29 2015, 03:57 AM
Philip W.   I don't think the oil cooler was in bad shape...   Jul 29 2015, 07:10 AM
Philip W.   http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c3-tec...-test...   Jul 29 2015, 08:09 AM
BeatNavy   Just a small follow-up on this thread. Last weeke...   Aug 13 2015, 04:02 PM
Jake Raby   Clean the cooling fan.... Also ensure that timing...   Aug 14 2015, 05:34 AM


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