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> 17" vs 15" wheels pros and cons
moggy
post Aug 23 2015, 01:15 PM
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I don't seem to see many 914 circuit racers with 17" wheels on. Everyone seems to stick to 15". Is there a reason for this? I'm less bothered about the looks of 17" vs 15", I'm more interested in this from a performance perspective. Who out there has tried both wheel sizes? what size did you decide on, and why?

I personally have 15" (Cookie cutters 7" wide all around)
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and 17" (Cup1 7"front 9"back)

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At the moment, I'm forced to use the 17" on tracks where I need the top speed, due to my low ratio gearbox (a hangup from when it was a rally car). The 17" wheels have a 26" overall diameter. Whereas the 15" wheels are used on slower, twisty tracks.

There is a huge weight difference between the wheels (including tyres) of 32kg (70.5lbs) total, which is an obvious benefit to sticking to the 15 "cookie cutters. But weight can't be the only reason why you circuit racers stick with the 15", so what are your reasons?
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post Aug 25 2015, 06:40 AM
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From a functional perspective, a lower profile tire/wheel combo will provide a different (read "better" to most) experience. Of course, this also has allot to do with factors other than simply the wheels diameter. Tires, suspension, sway bar(s), springs, etc obviously all play a role...

Visually? This is purely subjective...I can make a case either way. Looking "old" versus a slightly more-modern look could be debated ad-nauseam like that stupid 904 thread forever (yes, I un-subscribed)!!!

Here is my steel flared track car on 17's - I can't say it looks bad but I'm sure someone probably thinks it does - I don't care. I actually prefer the look but more importantly - they offer better performance (my opinion only). They "work better" than a 15" wheel and with allot more support/supply of tires and sizes from the manufactures.

Regarding the "weight" issue...how fast do you want to go and how much can you spend? The answer to that question will lead you down several different paths. Light (and larger) wheels are available - $$$$! Not everyone needs larger brakes, as noted in this thread, so budget, HP, intended environment (Race track vs AX, etc.) will go along ways in influencing what the correct decision will be for you.

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post Aug 25 2015, 08:46 AM
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QUOTE(Cracker @ Aug 25 2015, 08:40 AM) *

Regarding the "weight" issue...how fast do you want to go and how much can you spend? The answer to that question will lead you down several different paths. Light (and larger) wheels are available - $$$$! Not everyone needs larger brakes, as noted in this thread, so budget, HP, intended environment (Race track vs AX, etc.) will go along ways in influencing what the correct decision will be for you.



One point to note about weight in the case of wheels and brakes is that in going larger, you pay more for the additional weight (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) so when using unnecessarily large, you can wind up paying more for no improvement or even a decrease in performance. It is not a simple equation though, since as you note the selection of street and DOT race tires is better in the larger wheel sizes. And of course there are other factors like looks that are obviously a personal choice.
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moggy   17" vs 15" wheels pros and cons   Aug 23 2015, 01:15 PM
JPIII   I ran Hoosier R35 Canti on Fuch !5 X 8s up fr...   Aug 23 2015, 03:06 PM
brant   Bigger diameter wheels give you a slightly larger ...   Aug 23 2015, 08:12 PM
Andyrew   You can find a lot more tire sizes (Especially wid...   Aug 23 2015, 08:14 PM
john914somers   I've been on 17" twists but was thinking ...   Aug 24 2015, 12:52 AM
stownsen914   Let me throw in there too that 17 and 18 inch whee...   Aug 24 2015, 09:57 AM
JPIII   I've been on 17" twists but was thinking...   Aug 24 2015, 10:51 AM
stownsen914   Big wheels and brakes do look cool to be sure, but...   Aug 24 2015, 11:56 AM
SirAndy   I've been on 17" twists but was thinking ...   Aug 25 2015, 10:59 AM
naro914   we run 16" on both Huey and Papa Smurf. 993 r...   Aug 24 2015, 06:52 PM
Cracker   From a functional perspective, a lower profile tir...   Aug 25 2015, 06:40 AM
stownsen914   Regarding the "weight" issue...how fast...   Aug 25 2015, 08:46 AM
moggy   So it seems the only real reason to go for 17...   Aug 25 2015, 01:10 PM
Cracker   You wrote: 15" Cookie Cutters (7" wide) ...   Aug 25 2015, 02:42 PM
mepstein   "So it seems the only real reason to go for 1...   Aug 25 2015, 01:42 PM
naro914   Huey has 16x8 Fuchs for street wheels, 16x8 phone ...   Aug 25 2015, 02:48 PM
Cracker   Huey has 16x8 Fuchs for street wheels, 16x8 phone...   Aug 25 2015, 02:53 PM
jmitro   Huey has 16x8 Fuchs for street wheels, 16x8 phone...   Aug 29 2015, 06:03 AM
naro914   Huey has 16x8 Fuchs for street wheels, 16x8 phon...   Aug 29 2015, 07:39 AM
bulitt   [quote name='jmitro' post='2229998' date='Aug 29 ...   Sep 28 2015, 06:36 AM
Cracker   Assuming none of us are the second coming of Brian...   Sep 28 2015, 07:45 AM
naro914   Huey runs just fine thank you!!   Aug 25 2015, 02:54 PM
Cracker   Huey runs just fine thank you!! I was a...   Aug 25 2015, 04:26 PM
naro914   Huey runs just fine thank you!! I was ...   Aug 26 2015, 02:52 PM
Cracker   [quote name='Cracker' post='2228412' date='Aug 25...   Aug 26 2015, 03:08 PM
naro914   All in fun of course but lets not delve into anot...   Aug 26 2015, 03:15 PM
moggy   You yanks and yer V8 conversions :barf: When ar...   Aug 25 2015, 03:07 PM
naro914   You yanks and yer V8 conversions :barf: When a...   Aug 25 2015, 03:11 PM
moggy   [quote name='moggy' post='2228373' date='Aug 25 2...   Aug 25 2015, 04:02 PM
naro914   Yep, that's me Bob. I competed in the British...   Aug 26 2015, 02:54 PM
moggy   What engine are you running in there? It's ...   Aug 27 2015, 05:17 AM
naro914   What engine are you running in there? It's...   Aug 27 2015, 02:36 PM
moggy   [quote name='moggy' post='2229030' date='Aug 27 2...   Aug 27 2015, 03:41 PM
mgp4591   You yanks and yer V8 conversions :barf: When a...   Aug 31 2015, 01:41 AM
1stworks   You yanks and yer V8 conversions :barf: When ...   Sep 25 2015, 08:18 AM
Borderline   For AX I really like my 13" wheels. The smal...   Sep 25 2015, 09:53 AM
Randal   For AX I really like my 13" wheels. The sma...   Sep 25 2015, 02:56 PM
Borderline   For AX I really like my 13" wheels. The sm...   Sep 25 2015, 05:57 PM
mepstein   My coworkers claim that too many spacers place mor...   Sep 28 2015, 08:00 AM
Cracker   Yeah, they have a point. Never use more than ...   Sep 28 2015, 08:07 AM
naro914   FYI, I have 2" spacers on the back of Papa Sm...   Sep 28 2015, 08:13 AM


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