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> Biral Cylinders, Worth the difference on a daily driver?
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post Nov 14 2015, 12:46 PM
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I am getting going to get ready to put a 2056 FI engine together for a daily driver. Trying to decide if the cost is worth the difference. Biral are supposed to run 20 % cooler. Porsche used them for a couple of years and moved on to coatings.
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post Nov 14 2015, 08:39 PM
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Do it for 80 bucks...no doubt.


Not to go too far off topic here, but how do the aluminum fin set get bonded to the cast iron cylinder ?
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Nov 14 2015, 06:39 PM) *

Do it for 80 bucks...no doubt.


Not to go too far off topic here, but how do the aluminum fin set get bonded to the cast iron cylinder ?



The iron cylinder is cast first, and then the aluminum fins are cast around that. Finally, the iron cylinder is machined to spec. When complete, a biral cylinder is a single contiguous unit. It can also be rebored no problem.

They are lighter than iron cylinders obviously, and dissipate heat better.
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914Sixer   Biral Cylinders   Nov 14 2015, 12:46 PM
TJB/914   I am getting going to get ready to put a 2056 FI ...   Nov 14 2015, 01:35 PM
r_towle   What do they cost? What do they cost versus the al...   Nov 14 2015, 04:07 PM
914Sixer   Cost difference is about $80 dollars for set ...   Nov 14 2015, 06:29 PM
r_towle   Do it for 80 bucks...no doubt. Not to go too far...   Nov 14 2015, 08:39 PM
Catorse   Do it for 80 bucks...no doubt. Not to go too fa...   Nov 14 2015, 09:07 PM
r_towle   No sleeves? No slippage ( like early 3.4 water coo...   Nov 14 2015, 09:08 PM
914Sixer   I found a deal on them for $230 for all 4 96m...   Nov 14 2015, 09:14 PM
PotterPorsche   We are talking AA Biral cylinders right?   Nov 14 2015, 09:22 PM
914Sixer   Yes, AA birals.   Nov 14 2015, 09:28 PM
PotterPorsche   http://aapistons.com/products/vw-96mm-type...riant...   Nov 14 2015, 09:30 PM
r_towle   I have not heard wonderful things about AA cylinde...   Nov 14 2015, 09:31 PM
Catorse   I have not heard wonderful things about AA cylind...   Nov 14 2015, 09:53 PM
Montreal914   I have not heard wonderful things about AA cylin...   Nov 15 2015, 11:56 AM
Catorse   [quote name='Catorse' post='2265148' date='Nov 14...   Nov 15 2015, 03:57 PM
Mueller   I have not heard wonderful things about AA cylind...   Nov 15 2015, 11:54 AM
PotterPorsche   I've used the aa Pistons in a few engines. No ...   Nov 14 2015, 09:59 PM
r_towle   Good prices at AA. Does anyone know them? If so c...   Nov 15 2015, 11:46 AM
mr2by4   Good prices at AA. Does anyone know them? If so ...   Nov 15 2015, 02:15 PM
Mueller   Good prices at AA. Does anyone know them? If so...   Nov 15 2015, 02:22 PM
mr2by4   I don't see that in writing or in the picture...   Nov 16 2015, 06:06 AM
Dave_Darling   I have heard of earlier low-cost birals having sli...   Nov 15 2015, 03:18 PM
r_towle   I have heard of earlier low-cost birals having sl...   Nov 15 2015, 06:08 PM
Mark Henry   [quote name='Dave_Darling' post='2265442' date='N...   Nov 16 2015, 10:24 AM
tomeric914   I don't think I'd bother for a street-dri...   Oct 8 2018, 01:35 PM
PotterPorsche   AA are made overseas. Just like a majority of part...   Nov 15 2015, 09:05 PM
PotterPorsche   I would probably buy from john as well and pay him...   Nov 16 2015, 10:41 AM
Steve Pratel   I've done this exactly once, so no expertise h...   Nov 16 2015, 12:28 PM
914Sixer   Part numbers a EMW and Aircool.net are the SAME a...   Nov 16 2015, 05:36 PM
72hardtop   I'm using AA birals in my 2056cc T-4. I'm ...   Nov 23 2015, 05:19 PM
72hardtop   Just wanted to update.... Just turned 21,XXX mile...   Feb 7 2018, 04:43 PM
Mueller   Just wanted to update.... Just turned 21,XXX mil...   Feb 7 2018, 04:47 PM
crash914   The old school birals you mentioned were from CB. ...   Feb 7 2018, 07:50 PM
Highland   Wondering if anybody has temperature data with the...   Feb 7 2018, 09:11 PM
72hardtop   Wondering if anybody has temperature data with th...   Oct 8 2018, 05:06 AM
914_teener   I wondered the same. I would quess that a black ...   Feb 8 2018, 09:41 AM
worn   I wondered the same. I would quess that a black...   Oct 8 2018, 10:32 AM
914_teener   I wondered the same. I would quess that a blac...   Oct 8 2018, 11:13 AM
gothspeed   Depending on how thick the cylinder walls are, I t...   Feb 8 2018, 02:14 PM
Chi-town   I'm confused here Why would you want any coat...   Oct 8 2018, 10:16 AM
914_teener   http://swaintech.com/race-coatings/race-co...ittin...   Oct 8 2018, 11:37 AM


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