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SKL1
post Nov 22 2015, 09:32 PM
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2.0 with Webcam and Mallory distributor. Timing set and carbs synched, but really flat just off idle. Runs better when further up in the revs.

At 1800' in AZ.

Currently: 40 IDF, 200 air correction, F11 emulsion tube, 115 main, 58 idle, 55 float bowl, 28 venturis

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Darren C
post Nov 25 2015, 03:02 AM
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“Darren, have you checked the sync on the carbs? What you're suggesting sounds like a lean overrun, explained like this to me by Racer Chris himself: a lean condition means that ignition does not occur on one compression stroke, then the next time around the excess fuel ignites, causing the overrun (again, only as I understood it). While the 55 idles do sound a little big, you might have one bank, or even one cylinder leaned out too much. Check the sync on both carbs first, with all bypass screws closed. Verify that synch at both idle and at part-throttle. Then move to bringing up the "low" cylinders with the bypass screws. Finally, adjust mixture screws for lean best idle - some folks add an 1/8 turn to make sure they stay a tad bit rich as these engines tend to run best that way (again, just my understanding). If having any issues tuning out the mixture, or if you're more than 2 turns IN, than your idles are too big.”

Many thanks Paintedman, The carbs are balanced with a sync gauge (and to be fair these seem to be the best Webers I’ve ever balanced, they are perfectly matched on all 4 cylinders with the air bleeds shut, all I needed to do was balance them between each carb and the job was done)
I set rough the mixture screws before fitting the carbs by turning in fully closed gently on to the seats, then opening 1 ½ full turns; then ran the engine for the first time to balance up and set idle at about 950 rpm. Checking and rebalancing side to side until perfect. Reving and over run was fine then with no post ignition popping.
It was only when the engine was fully warmed up and I wound the idle screws in to set the mixture by listening to a cylinder drop out (then turning back ¼ turn) when I started to get the popping on over run. Your answer of “lean over run” seems the best explanation. Particularly as I know the mixture screws are more than 2 turns in. (by the way I’ve not heard the 2 turn rule v idle size before) I’ve got some 50 idles, so will swap them over and see how that works out.
Many thanks for the good advice.
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SKL1   Weber jet recommendation   Nov 22 2015, 09:32 PM
r_towle   What linkage are you using?   Nov 22 2015, 10:22 PM
SKL1   Tangerine Racing linkage   Nov 23 2015, 12:21 AM
Elliot Cannon   2.0 with Webcam and Mallory distributor. Timing ...   Nov 23 2015, 01:33 AM
Ansbacher   In my experience with Webers and Dellortos, a flat...   Nov 23 2015, 06:08 AM
ThePaintedMan   Yeah, knowing the vent size would be the first ste...   Nov 23 2015, 07:28 AM
rhodyguy   Where do you have the air-bypass screws set? With ...   Nov 23 2015, 07:51 AM
bulitt   This technical talk makes me giggly. Been 45 yrs ...   Nov 23 2015, 08:31 AM
rhodyguy   If you don't own one buy the CB weber book. Go...   Nov 23 2015, 11:17 AM
72hardtop   What vent size are you running? 40IDF's come w...   Nov 23 2015, 05:00 PM
SKL1   Gonna check my venturi size tomorrow if I find the...   Nov 24 2015, 12:14 AM
Darren C   Interesting feed back here; I'm running 55 i...   Nov 24 2015, 06:34 AM
SKL1   28 venturis- just checked... fuel pressure 3.5 as...   Nov 24 2015, 03:40 PM
ThePaintedMan   OP - you did you due diligence with the fuel press...   Nov 24 2015, 04:07 PM
Elliot Cannon   I know you're getting a lot of advice from dif...   Nov 24 2015, 04:35 PM
Darren C   “Darren, have you checked the sync on the carbs?...   Nov 25 2015, 03:02 AM
Eric_Shea   You need to know the displacement (which you have)...   Nov 25 2015, 07:32 PM
Eric_Shea   Also... based upon this: *AC's seem a littl...   Nov 25 2015, 07:51 PM
Eric_Shea   I'll use the same data from my spreadsheet t...   Nov 25 2015, 08:11 PM
SKL1   Thanks for the suggestions Eric. I'll have to...   Nov 25 2015, 08:37 PM
Eric_Shea   Happy to help. I went through so many carb woes, I...   Nov 26 2015, 01:00 PM
Darren C   Many thanks Eric, much appreciated I'll give t...   Nov 26 2015, 02:09 PM
CG-914   Couldnt agree more with Eric! Also if you hav...   Nov 27 2015, 04:09 AM
SKL1   Oh no, another PMB division! Another place to...   Nov 27 2015, 10:12 AM
stugray   Here are my notes from my racing logbook this year...   Nov 27 2015, 10:57 AM
SKL1   Seems like CB is the easiest place to source jets,...   Nov 28 2015, 04:14 PM
SKL1   Gonna have to see if that spreadsheet from PMB Mot...   Jan 13 2016, 09:31 PM
michael7810   Dougs Bugs and Bunnies over in Mesa has a good sel...   Jan 14 2016, 06:26 AM
jmill   Gonna have to see if that spreadsheet from PMB Mo...   Jan 14 2016, 11:18 AM
jmill   The reason you have that flat spot is due to the i...   Jan 14 2016, 03:29 PM


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