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> Car porn not 914 but related, hey it's all in the family, Unbelievable pictures
Mikey914
post Dec 21 2015, 10:57 AM
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A customer of mine in is doing a 67 912 resto from tub up. The early 912s had the same issues with rust we do and even has foam in them too (just like our 914s).

He used a company in Ohio to dip the car and dissolve the crud (he did scrape off the tar) ans ecoat the entire car. He did the doors 1st to see if he would like the results, and wow! Looks like new metal.

Looks like Stoddard will be doing a full write up on this car at some point, but I was so impressed with the results that though I would share.


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post Dec 23 2015, 05:19 PM
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What I can tell you is that the owner of the E-coat probably makes DAMN sure that whatever goes into the E-coat tank is CLEAN! The cost of a tank of E-Coat paint large enough to dip the whole tub is nothing to sneeze about. Contaminating said tank of paint would render it worthless.

Typically with an E-Coating process, there would be several stages of pretreatment in order to clean the parts. On a tank this large, it would more than likely be several stages of dip-pretreatment, followed by the e-coat tank, then a post rinse (to rinse off the non coated E-coat paint. Then the E-Coated parts would enter a curing oven that first brings the metal temp up to just below boiling point of water for 10-15 minutes to drive off moisture (dehydration zone), and then the parts would be typically be brought up to a metal temperature of approximately 400deg for around 45-60 minutes. Once cooled, the parts are done.

This process would have the advantage of completely cleaning acid from the joints and effectively coating all surfaces that the E-Coat process can coat (excludes closed box sections that create Faraday Cages).

The E-Coat needs to be top coated as it is not very UV stable. It would make for an excellent primer. The 914's were originally dip primer coated in a similar process back in the 70's. It was the precursor to what we know now as E-Coating. That is the thin grey primer typically found when one strips the tar/sound deadener from the floors of a 914.

We build industrial E-coat and Powder Coat systems where I work.

I think it looks great.

For my $0.02, our track car was chemically stripped back in 1984 when it got it's factory flares. To this day, the tub remains clean. The only paint problems we have had with it were self induced. We experienced no bubbling of paint. That typically comes from poor prepwork.
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Mikey914   Car porn not 914 but related, hey it's all in the family   Dec 21 2015, 10:57 AM
gereed75   wow looks great!! of course the next q...   Dec 21 2015, 11:02 AM
peteyd   Dipping cars is something we never recommend. I h...   Dec 21 2015, 11:16 AM
BillC   Dipping cars is something we never recommend. I ...   Dec 21 2015, 08:54 PM
bulitt   Dipping cars is something we never recommend. I ...   Dec 22 2015, 03:19 AM
dflesburg   I disagree... I had mine dipped in 1993 and have ...   Dec 21 2015, 11:23 AM
Mikey914   This was not only dipped, but e-coated. We have us...   Dec 21 2015, 11:40 AM
Zimms   This was not only dipped, but e-coated. We have u...   Dec 21 2015, 07:25 PM
Cairo94507   Looks terrific. I would love to watch that 912 no...   Dec 21 2015, 12:03 PM
boxsterfan   Where can I get my 914 done like this? And how muc...   Dec 21 2015, 04:15 PM
914forme   E-coating done in Ohio, :idea: that is very tempt...   Dec 21 2015, 05:43 PM
mbseto   Wonder if we could get a quantity discount... gro...   Dec 21 2015, 06:33 PM
dlee6204   We have an e-coat system at work for coating truck...   Dec 21 2015, 07:53 PM
Rob-O   If you did a 914, you would first want to cut the ...   Dec 21 2015, 08:15 PM
Mikey914   I'll get the full information Monday. My conta...   Dec 22 2015, 01:09 AM
smveril   I have used American Metal Cleaning as well for 91...   Dec 22 2015, 07:16 AM
Peashooter   AMC dipped my hoods and doors, the rest was media ...   Dec 22 2015, 08:26 AM
dflesburg   Here it was back in 1993...   Dec 22 2015, 08:32 AM
Brett W   There is a place down in Jackson MS, that also doe...   Dec 22 2015, 01:40 PM
Al Meredith   I once dipped a Formula V frame and years later it...   Dec 22 2015, 04:33 PM
John   What I can tell you is that the owner of the E-coa...   Dec 23 2015, 05:19 PM
Brett W   The 914's were originally dip primer coated i...   Dec 24 2015, 02:43 PM
John   The 914's were originally dip primer coated ...   Dec 28 2015, 04:38 PM
mepstein   [quote name='Brett W' post='2281242' date='Dec 24...   Dec 28 2015, 05:15 PM
Rob-O   :agree: Great paint info. I worked in the OEM p...   Dec 23 2015, 07:31 PM
John   :agree: Great paint info. I worked in the OEM ...   Dec 28 2015, 04:24 PM
Mark Henry   Dipping has been debated to death...you will never...   Dec 23 2015, 07:46 PM
rick 918-S   I had this Mercedes done over a year ago. It is si...   Dec 23 2015, 08:58 PM
mepstein   The paper heater tubes aren't important on a s...   Dec 23 2015, 09:02 PM
Rob-O   Nope wouldn't need 'em. And might make it...   Dec 23 2015, 09:24 PM
boxsterfan   there are always electric heaters hooked up to 55 ...   Dec 23 2015, 11:08 PM
skier2.0   I bet the new methods are much different than the ...   Dec 25 2015, 06:06 PM
Dominic   Does anyone have any recommendations for a reputab...   Dec 25 2015, 11:11 PM
DavidSweden   Elbow grease http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads...   Dec 26 2015, 03:41 AM
McMark   All the cars were indeed primer dipped. No doubt ...   Dec 29 2015, 12:59 PM
Perry Kiehl   I seem to remember reading in a Porsche sales broc...   Sep 22 2017, 12:21 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   See these two:   Sep 22 2017, 01:50 PM
Rob-O   See these two: Jeff, Is that for all models? ...   Sep 22 2017, 04:15 PM


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