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> 1970 914 Restoration Candidate, Advice Needed for Porsche Newbie
aggiezig
post Jan 14 2016, 09:06 PM
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Hello 914 World! This is my first post on the forum. I'm a long time aircooled VW enthusiast & have had several projects in the past (beetles, sand rail, baja, thing).

Our current project is a 1956 Oval Beetle:

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Anyways, reason for my post is that I'm looking for a 914 project. I mean, I want one bad. These cars are so stinkin' cool and the perfect mix of VW / Porsche. Interestingly, I've noticed the appreciation in value of these things over the last 5 years - so getting hands on one cheap has become a little more difficult.

I found a gentlemen who has a 1970 914 listed on craigslist, and we've been talking back and forth for a few days. The car is in rough shape, but does run & drive. He said it has the original engine, owners manual, keys, etc. He also has all of the missing components that are off the car now, plus some extras. It also comes with a homemade trailer supposedly built for the car. Oh, and new tires.

I know that it will need rust repairs, a completely prep / paint job, interior restoration, and at least a clean/tune up. Here are some pics:

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(The trunk lid is just wrapped, not painted in this pic)
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Should be a 1.7? PO converted to Weber Carb
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I was told the floors have several pin holes
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The back 8" of the trunk floor pan have been cut out:
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Battery box is gone / Hell hole doesn't look too great:
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From the bottom:
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VIN Plate
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So... time to make two lists.

The good list:
  • Running / Driving
  • Body panels seem in tact / rust free
  • New tires / OG Rims
  • All electrics supposedly work
  • (Free) Trailer Included
  • PO Apparently sprayed the entire inside w/ rust primer
  • Clean title!
  • All missing pieces + extras included

And, the bad:
  • Battery tray / Hell hole is rotten
  • Rocker covers have not been off
  • ^Potential hidden rust is likely in rockers / longs
  • Will need floor pans
  • Fuel injection parts are long gone

He's asking $2,500, and said he was firm on that as he is selling for a friend. Honestly, I'd like to pay $2,000. At that number, I could at least resell all of the good bits off to recover my investment if their is some hidden destruction.

I'd like to check out the car in person - but it is a solid 5 hours away. So, if I'm going - I want to be sure I'm going to try to make a deal.

So, what are everyone's thoughts? (Thanks in advance for your feedback!)
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post Jan 15 2016, 12:35 AM
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To me, it's a car that 5 years from now would be a good candidate for resto. If you've got the skills, space and tools I'd say go for it. If the trailer is viable, your logic is reasonable.

The thing is, once you make the 5 hour drive, you have to be willing to walk away if you have any sense you're in too deep. Take along a cordless drill so you can take out the rivets and see under the rocker panels.

There is a wealth of knowledge on this site that can help if you take on the project. There are also build threads here that began with lots worse than this one. Good luck.

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post Jan 15 2016, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Jan 15 2016, 12:35 AM) *
Take along a cordless drill so you can take out the rivets and see under the rocker panels.


So, pardon the newbie question - but is there any good resource I can use to read up on how to remove the rocker panel covers? I've never done that before so don't even know how they're attached / where to look to start removing.
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post Jan 15 2016, 01:04 AM
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QUOTE(aggiezig @ Jan 14 2016, 10:45 PM) *

QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Jan 15 2016, 12:35 AM) *
Take along a cordless drill so you can take out the rivets and see under the rocker panels.


So, pardon the newbie question - but is there any good resource I can use to read up on how to remove the rocker panel covers? I've never done that before so don't even know how they're attached / where to look to start removing.


3 lugbolts underneath the rocker panel, two small lugnut inside front fender and rear fender and several plastic rivets on top that you can cut the head assuming still original installation. Usually the 3 bolts underneath is hars to loosen. What I did on two cars is to just cut them with electric cutter.

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aggiezig   1970 914 Restoration Candidate   Jan 14 2016, 09:06 PM
Mike Bellis   You can find a better one for that price. In Calif...   Jan 14 2016, 09:28 PM
aggiezig   You can find a better one for that price. In Cali...   Jan 14 2016, 09:39 PM
r_towle   The hell holes is the hardest, and once you are d...   Jan 14 2016, 09:45 PM
mepstein   I have no idea why you would pay more than $1...   Jan 14 2016, 09:52 PM
jmill   I'm up North in the salt belt and I wouldn...   Jan 14 2016, 10:43 PM
RobW   :agree: You can do better. The general rule of...   Jan 14 2016, 10:48 PM
Larmo63   I'd RUN from that car. $1000-1200 tops....   Jan 14 2016, 11:21 PM
whitetwinturbo   :barf: ...... how about that picture with the pie...   Jan 14 2016, 11:22 PM
aggiezig   Ok - so overwhelming response is to run away. I ma...   Jan 14 2016, 11:49 PM
KELTY360   To me, it's a car that 5 years from now would ...   Jan 15 2016, 12:35 AM
aggiezig   Take along a cordless drill so you can take out th...   Jan 15 2016, 12:45 AM
ndfrigi   Take along a cordless drill so you can take out t...   Jan 15 2016, 01:04 AM
Chris914n6   You will spend 3-4k in parts and time/labor just t...   Jan 15 2016, 12:38 AM
Larmo63   Rivets along the top, nuts and bolts on both ends,...   Jan 15 2016, 01:05 AM
aggiezig   Thanks, everyone for the help. I really appreciate...   Jan 15 2016, 01:29 AM
mtndawg   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#en...   Jan 15 2016, 01:05 AM
mark04usa   Howdy from Austin! Cool Oval project... I ho...   Jan 15 2016, 01:56 AM
walterolin   Get the VIN number and post it here in the VIN sec...   Jan 15 2016, 07:55 AM
walterolin   And nice oval. I had 59 convertible in college. 1...   Jan 15 2016, 07:59 AM
aggiezig   I just emailed the owner & asked if he would s...   Jan 15 2016, 10:08 AM
Jonathan Livesay   If those are "pinholes" in the floor loo...   Jan 15 2016, 12:22 PM
stinkindiesel   Good to see someone else from central Texas, even ...   Jan 15 2016, 12:53 PM
aggiezig   I would certainly think you could do better locall...   Jan 15 2016, 03:23 PM
VWTortuga336   Keep us posted on the Dallas car, I was considerin...   Jan 15 2016, 04:08 PM
914_teener   :agree: Find another tub...   Jan 15 2016, 04:12 PM
rgalla9146   Go get the Dallas car. Judging by your Beetle ...   Jan 15 2016, 07:28 PM
aggiezig   Just got off the phone with the Dallas owner. Supe...   Jan 15 2016, 09:06 PM
steuspeed   There are much better cars out there. I wouldn...   Jan 15 2016, 09:47 PM
mepstein   There are much better cars out there. I wouldn...   Jan 15 2016, 10:21 PM
Larmo63   My black car looked WAY worse than that inside whe...   Jan 15 2016, 11:58 PM
rjames   My black car looked WAY worse than that inside wh...   Jan 16 2016, 01:25 AM


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