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| boxsterfan |
Feb 15 2016, 06:41 PM
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914's are kewl ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
Which /6 motor is cheaper to rebuild? 2.7L or the 3.0L?
1. Assume core motor is in good condtion and no crazy findings when you tear it down. 2. Assume you are building the motor for longevity 3. You are putting this in a 914/6 conversion (was /4) |
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| 0396 |
Feb 17 2016, 09:12 PM
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JP,
I've always been impressed with your thoughts and the selection of quality parts that you post for your builds. I have a few questions regarding the pictures from above. I noticed that the rods were never touch as in balancing. But I did notice that some rods had a different color to them. Did you gather many sets and got as close as possible to complete a set? Also, I noticed that you don't knife the crank. Is that another school of thought? I do know that Porsche Motorsports doesn't knife their cranks too. Keep up with the great work. |
| J P Stein |
Feb 18 2016, 10:00 AM
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Irrelevant old fart ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
JP, I've always been impressed with your thoughts and the selection of quality parts that you post for your builds. I have a few questions regarding the pictures from above. I noticed that the rods were never touch as in balancing. But I did notice that some rods had a different color to them. Did you gather many sets and got as close as possible to complete a set? Also, I noticed that you don't knife the crank. Is that another school of thought? I do know that Porsche Motorsports doesn't knife their cranks too. Keep up with the great work. The rods (& crank) were right out of a good running engine then reinstalled...in order, of course. The original motor (shortblock) was from a 76 911 (IIRC) it came off a shelf, having been rebuilt about 10 years before .(all history was verbal)....the cost to me was $500. It got torn down and was in decent shape, considering. The rod's histories were unknown, they looked to be factory balanced.....I think the "colors" you see are from the lighting. The crank was stock. The cams Solex were one NOS and one reground by Weber....a couple hundred bucks.....that grind was the cat's ass for AX. Bought a set of Webers that were sitting on another shelf for 10 years for 800 from a friend for . I rebuilt em'........they were nice and learned to tune em'( no small chore, it took me about 6 months to get em' spot on.) That is worth it's own thread. I set the revlimiter as high as 7300 but mostly set at 7100......knife edge? why? That combo also makes a great street motor. The stock Porsche balancing is top notch. You may be reading about a long streak of luck........I'll take it. I took a lot of advise about the builds......from folks I had learned to trust. It didn't happen over night....I originally put a 2.4L in the car, but wanted more power......did a lot of networking with nice guys. I was happy with the outcome.....the engine was happy also. I sold all my Porsche stuff and bought a 65 FB Mustang...got fed up with that & bought a Miata. My wrenchin' days are over. Nice talkin' to you. ![]() ![]() |
boxsterfan Rebuild a 2.7L or 3.0L six motor Feb 15 2016, 06:41 PM
jcd914 3.0L
The Aluminum case of the 3.0L won't kill ... Feb 15 2016, 06:53 PM
bigkensteele
3.0L
The Aluminum case of the 3.0L won't kill... Feb 15 2016, 08:01 PM
boxsterfan
3.0L
The Aluminum case of the 3.0L won't kil... Feb 15 2016, 08:08 PM
mepstein
[quote name='bigkensteele' post='2303577' date='F... Feb 15 2016, 08:42 PM
Mark Henry I'd say about the same, but there's so man... Feb 15 2016, 07:10 PM
boxsterfan What's a good price these days for a 2.7L vs 3... Feb 15 2016, 07:15 PM
worn
What's a good price these days for a 2.7L vs ... Feb 16 2016, 09:54 AM
Steve Lots of pro's and cons
2.7 Pro's
Magnesium... Feb 15 2016, 07:40 PM
jimkelly unless money is no object, don't stretch your ... Feb 15 2016, 08:07 PM
Dave_Darling Which /6 motor is cheaper to rebuild? 2.7L or the ... Feb 15 2016, 08:15 PM
396
Which /6 motor is cheaper to rebuild? 2.7L or the... Feb 15 2016, 09:09 PM
jimkelly a totally tight car with 115-125 hp would be plent... Feb 15 2016, 08:24 PM
boxsterfan
a totally tight car with 115-125 hp would be plen... Feb 15 2016, 08:33 PM

Porschef
a totally tight car with 115-125 hp would be ple... Feb 16 2016, 09:24 AM

BeatNavy
My intentions had been to have a 2270 built with ... Feb 16 2016, 09:41 AM
porschetub
a totally tight car with 115-125 hp would be plen... Feb 15 2016, 11:38 PM
bigkensteele If you don't already have Wayne Dempsey's ... Feb 15 2016, 08:29 PM
Justinp71
If you don't already have Wayne Dempsey's... Feb 15 2016, 10:41 PM
mepstein Just like our cars, buy the best one you can. The ... Feb 15 2016, 08:36 PM
larryM QUOTE O.P: "Anywhere near 200HP will be fine ... Feb 15 2016, 09:17 PM
Steve I lucked out!!! Back in 2000 a wrecki... Feb 15 2016, 09:22 PM
Mark Henry Just to keep it honest.... <_<
Unless you h... Feb 15 2016, 09:31 PM
mepstein
Just to keep it honest.... <_<
Unless you ... Feb 15 2016, 09:45 PM

Mark Henry
Just to keep it honest.... <_<
Unless you... Feb 15 2016, 09:48 PM

mepstein
[quote name='mepstein' post='2303611' date='Feb 1... Feb 15 2016, 09:52 PM
Steve
Just to keep it honest.... <_<
Unless you ... Feb 15 2016, 09:52 PM
mepstein
Just to keep it honest.... <_<
Unless you... Feb 15 2016, 09:55 PM
Justinp71
Just to keep it honest.... <_<
Unless you... Feb 15 2016, 10:43 PM
Steve
[quote name='Steve' post='2303614' date='Feb 15 2... Feb 15 2016, 10:55 PM
Justinp71
[quote name='Steve' post='2303614' date='Feb 15 ... Feb 16 2016, 12:00 AM
Mark Henry
[quote name='Steve' post='2303614' date='Feb 15 ... Feb 16 2016, 09:48 AM
mepstein
[quote name='Steve' post='2303627' date='Feb 15 2... Feb 16 2016, 10:49 AM
mepstein I once heard the saying - the deal of a lifetime c... Feb 15 2016, 09:54 PM
Justinp71 for 165-180 hp is a n/a subaru motor the most cost... Feb 15 2016, 11:56 PM
JmuRiz I have a supposedly decent 2.7 core...I'll nee... Feb 16 2016, 08:52 AM
Justinp71
I have a supposedly decent 2.7 core...I'll ne... Feb 16 2016, 03:30 PM
J P Stein Built properly, a 2,7L is a decent motor. MY old 2... Feb 16 2016, 11:35 AM
Mark Henry
We were putting a 3.2 on an engine stand one day... Feb 16 2016, 11:53 AM
396
One thing is you can't do twin plug with the ... Feb 16 2016, 12:04 PM
Mark Henry That is performance build right?
I'm not sure... Feb 16 2016, 12:11 PM
Justinp71 I'd also ask yourself what kind of motor do yo... Feb 16 2016, 12:20 PM
Mark Henry
I'd also ask yourself what kind of motor do y... Feb 16 2016, 12:47 PM
jimkelly i'd sure like to see someone else do a mcmark ... Feb 16 2016, 12:41 PM
Mark Henry
i'd sure like to see someone else do a mcmark... Feb 16 2016, 12:45 PM
r_towle
[quote name='jimkelly' post='2303771' date='Feb 1... Feb 16 2016, 03:48 PM
Mark Henry
[quote name='jimkelly' post='2303771' date='Feb ... Feb 16 2016, 04:22 PM
jimkelly i hear you.
but i see it as a 175-200 hp thread, ... Feb 16 2016, 02:56 PM
396
i hear you.
but i see it as a 175-200 hp thread,... Feb 17 2016, 12:31 AM
mb911 I had a 74 2.7 pre thermal reactors with 50k on it... Feb 16 2016, 05:07 PM
Justinp71 OK from Wayne's Book (pricing is 15 years old?... Feb 16 2016, 10:51 PM
raynekat
OK from Wayne's Book (pricing is 15 years old... Feb 16 2016, 11:10 PM
396
OK from Wayne's Book (pricing is 15 years ol... Feb 17 2016, 12:38 AM
raynekat One thing I forgot about if you're going to do... Feb 16 2016, 11:19 PM
Justinp71 I do agree it's not a cheap or easy task. Ther... Feb 16 2016, 11:26 PM
jcd914 Many machine shops are not going to be equipped to... Feb 17 2016, 12:28 AM
Mark Henry :agree:
But DIY can keep cost down especially on... Feb 17 2016, 05:49 AM
Mark Henry
One thing I forgot about if you're going to d... Feb 17 2016, 06:13 AM
jimkelly boxsterfan,
what kind of max budget for engine re... Feb 17 2016, 07:25 AM
Luke M I like Mark have built a 2.7 rs spec engine and cu... Feb 17 2016, 07:28 AM
Mark Henry Just an FYI I think I know of a 3.2 that's com... Feb 17 2016, 08:33 AM
J P Stein Well, golly.....
Spend a little time on the Pelica... Feb 17 2016, 09:03 AM
JmuRiz But then we'd have to deal with Canadians :D
A... Feb 17 2016, 09:03 AM
Mark Henry
But then we'd have to deal with Canadians :D
... Feb 17 2016, 09:26 AM
Mark Henry
But then we'd have to deal with Canadians :D... Feb 17 2016, 11:48 AM
Catorse I have about 18K in my unfinsihed 2.7 (still waiti... Feb 17 2016, 10:28 AM
raynekat
I have about 18K in my unfinsihed 2.7 (still wait... Feb 17 2016, 11:47 AM
billh1963 Just to add some recent real world experience, her... Feb 17 2016, 12:50 PM
Justinp71
Just to add some recent real world experience, he... Feb 17 2016, 01:39 PM
billh1963
Just to add some recent real world experience, h... Feb 17 2016, 01:55 PM
mb911 Prices have gone up without a doubt bearings are a... Feb 17 2016, 01:16 PM
Mark Henry
That said if you diy you can build it without tak... Feb 17 2016, 01:54 PM
DBCooper Good God, a grand for bearings? That's Lifest... Feb 17 2016, 01:34 PM
396 I'm sure this tread has opened many folks eyes... Feb 17 2016, 01:49 PM
J P Stein Note the Mahle PCs in the previous pics.
10:1 comp... Feb 17 2016, 08:38 PM
Mark Henry
Note the Mahle PCs in the previous pics.
10:1 com... Feb 17 2016, 09:44 PM
mepstein 2.7's get pricey if you are ditching the cis a... Feb 17 2016, 09:01 PM
boxsterfan Wow what a thread!!! Maybe I should c... Feb 17 2016, 10:37 PM
BeatNavy
Wow what a thread!!! Maybe I should ... Feb 18 2016, 10:29 AM

boxsterfan
Wow what a thread!!! Maybe I should... Feb 18 2016, 10:53 AM
billh1963
Wow what a thread!!! Maybe I should ... Feb 18 2016, 12:04 PM
J P Stein Nowdays, Subie is the way to go IMO.
MY ex-co-driv... Feb 18 2016, 11:22 AM
boxsterfan
Nowdays, Subie is the way to go IMO.
MY ex-co-dri... Feb 18 2016, 11:25 AM
396
Nowdays, Subie is the way to go IMO.
MY ex-co-dri... Feb 18 2016, 11:46 PM
J P Stein Hay, it's just a shitbox :D Feb 18 2016, 11:30 AM
Mark Henry Ho-Kay then .... moving along....
Another rebuild... Feb 18 2016, 12:21 PM
Mark Henry Turn up the sound :wub:
qPEaNcOiLi8 Feb 18 2016, 12:28 PM
billh1963
Turn up the sound :wub:
qPEaNcOiLi8
:drivi... Feb 18 2016, 12:50 PM
Justinp71
Turn up the sound :wub:
qPEaNcOiLi8
This ca... Feb 18 2016, 11:34 PM
Justinp71 If you want fast and less expensive subaru or LS1 ... Feb 18 2016, 01:25 PM
Mark Henry
As for P&C's you can purchase JE pistons... Feb 18 2016, 03:39 PM
billh1963 Some good threads on JE pistons.... I read a lot b... Feb 18 2016, 03:55 PM
Mark Henry
Some good threads on JE pistons.... I read a lot ... Feb 18 2016, 05:02 PM
Catorse The question of value came up earlier in the threa... Feb 18 2016, 05:52 PM
ThePaintedMan ...and for many of us that is a dream we share. Bu... Feb 18 2016, 06:27 PM
Mark Garriott When I hear of 5 digit air-cooled 6 rebuilds, I st... Feb 19 2016, 11:02 AM
Mark Henry
When I hear of 5 digit air-cooled 6 rebuilds, I s... Feb 19 2016, 11:33 AM
Catorse LOL, GT3 motor. That would cost you 35K minimum. G... Feb 19 2016, 08:09 PM![]() ![]() |
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