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post Feb 19 2016, 02:57 PM
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If we all agree that turbo cars are less reliable long term, then how do the new 2017 models stand a chance in lasting 20-40 years or more?

constant rebuilds?

jack stands?

anyone have a thought?

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I think most of the OEM turbos are ceramic ball bearing and the seals are pretty high grade. So nothing stands out as inherently less reliable. Biggest problem is the sorting out the newer technology, like high pressure injectors. Nothing is going to do 250k without intervention into something, being carbon buildup or deteriorated seals.

I've worked on many 20-something high mile cars and the engine is really a small part of what makes it junk worthy. All the rubber is deteriorated, like susp bushings, window seals, drivetrain seals, caliper seals. Add wear and tear to the interior and paint, plus advancements in safety technology. Revitalizing an older car doesn't make sense.

Stay away from Volvos haha.
Nissan has a built in auto-calibrate for the TB and there are so many of them that they are $50 on ebay or 200ish aftermarket.
BMW 335i, factory recalls on hp injectors and the hp fuel pump. Rebuilt injector $140 at Autozone, $20 for the OBD to USB cable, software to enter the new values into the ecu free on internet.

If it is a high failure part, the aftermarket steps in eventually.
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dflesburg   if we all agree turbos are less reliable long term...   Feb 19 2016, 02:57 PM
matthepcat   Turbo whats? Modern turbo cars in general with go...   Feb 19 2016, 03:03 PM
BeemerSteve   My 1997 Ford F-250 7.3 powerstroke is still return...   Feb 19 2016, 03:07 PM
brant   my opinion about modern cars is that they do last ...   Feb 19 2016, 03:27 PM
Mueller   If we all agree that turbo cars are less reliable...   Feb 19 2016, 03:28 PM
Tom_T   It's not so much the Turbos which will cause p...   Feb 19 2016, 03:38 PM
brooks944   I had a 944 Turbo for 12 years. Never had a turbo...   Feb 19 2016, 03:55 PM
Andyrew   Turbo reliability was a problem 30 years ago. Not ...   Feb 19 2016, 03:59 PM
DBCooper   Interesting reading this, I've had the same di...   Feb 19 2016, 04:19 PM
Mueller   Interesting reading this, I've had the same d...   Feb 19 2016, 08:55 PM
Chris914n6   The next machine might not be so lucky, we've...   Feb 20 2016, 01:26 AM
brant   I think a set of 6 high pressure fuel injectors fo...   Feb 19 2016, 04:24 PM
Cracker   Just replaced all six injectors last Saturday in m...   Feb 19 2016, 08:36 PM
brant   Just replaced all six injectors last Saturday in ...   Feb 19 2016, 09:17 PM
slotty008   I had a BMW 530d for 9 years; The turbo blew up af...   Feb 19 2016, 04:26 PM
Steve Pratel   I think 'more complex' is a better descrip...   Feb 19 2016, 04:58 PM
Chris914n6   I think most of the OEM turbos are ceramic ball be...   Feb 19 2016, 05:27 PM
ThePaintedMan   Surely you mean a 718?!? Otherwise I need to e...   Feb 19 2016, 05:33 PM
Steve Pratel   Surely you mean a 718?!? Otherwise I need to ...   Feb 19 2016, 08:54 PM
Mike Bellis   It comes down to modern fuel and spark/knock manag...   Feb 19 2016, 06:20 PM
Cracker   Brant - No odometer??? :confused: No I wasn...   Feb 19 2016, 09:47 PM
RickS   Had a 91 Audi 200 turbo with 225k on the original ...   Feb 20 2016, 09:56 AM
whitetwinturbo   New factory turbo setups WILL be an issue when car...   Feb 26 2016, 05:28 PM
Elliot Cannon   All this leads me to believe that the end of the i...   Feb 27 2016, 01:42 AM
slotty008   All this leads me to believe that the end of the ...   Feb 27 2016, 06:11 AM
somd914   All this leads me to believe that the end of the ...   Feb 27 2016, 06:33 AM
914forme   :agree: But that also bring opportunity. I will g...   Feb 27 2016, 07:19 AM
Elliot Cannon   This thread was originally about turbo cars. Some...   Feb 27 2016, 11:50 AM


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