if we all agree turbos are less reliable long term... Options

[dflesburg]

If we all agree that turbo cars are less reliable long term, then how do the new 2017 models stand a chance in lasting 20-40 years or more?

constant rebuilds?

jack stands?

anyone have a thought?

[914forme]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) But that also bring opportunity.

I will gladly drive something that is equal to Tesla's current S model.

The line up looks like this currently

Tesla S - in production. If I had the coin.
Tesla "e" - Oh I mean 3 An affordable sedan
Tesla X - should have been here (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Not that I would buy one.
Tesla Y - (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) They are working on a roadster again.

Yes you see that right - S3XY would be plastered all over Tesla Branding.

And in the chain is a delivery van, and pickup truck.

I was thinking this morning that next target would be stationary engine, think generation stations, and emergency backup power. It is a natural convergence of Solar City and Tesla. I would be happy to give up my big datacenter generators if a reliable/ viable alternative existed. We already have large battery packs, flywheel technology exists, but all the manufactures have pulled out of the small KVA market. You can't get anything below 112KVA, currently. With virtualization and efficiencies in computing going through the roof, we are down to a generously over stated load of 15KVA. Down from 80 KVA at our peak of inefficiency. Solar seems like the best bet on this one. Though generating and maintaining 15 KVA would take a large array currently. With panel efficiencies improving best panels are 18% efficient we will see a quantum leap shortly, it just seems like it is one of the best solutions. I do have one facility that wind could work, has a constant wind. Thus the reason Strategic Air Command built a B-52 base there in the 50s.

If my driving electric as a DD means I can play with internal combustion for fun, I am fine with that. Now if some do goober thinks they have all the answers and decides to start banning things based on their own hipacrosicy then screw that, I keep driving the biggest (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif) I can find.

Wow Elliot you made this topic move way off so to bring it back. Answer the original question.

Owned several turbo cars, all with 250-350 thousand miles on them. Replaced turbos at on them around the 200K mark. Not because they where bad, more because I was bored. And it sounded like a good idea.

I did replace one on a used TDI I purchased, but if you saw what the previous owner did that car, you would know it went through several turbos. I found one side of an impeller in the exhaust when I went big to match the new hybrid turbo I put on. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

Reason why you are seeing cars move to turbo power is the HP the public wants, with the fuel efficiency and emissions the governments are demanding. Slapping a turbo on something is a quick way to reduce displacement and increase HP. It is also a very cheap way to manufacture a lineup of cars.

Klaus over there builds an engine. Sheldon over here writes the code of the management system, and well I can have infinite power levels. all based off the same code. They day might come where the dealer will sell you the car, color etc.. And you engine trim is set via a switch in the line of code.

You come in and purchase the base model and we give you um 300 HP. The S model is 310HP, the RS is 330, the GT3 350 the GT3RS is 400. All done via a switch, and then the dealer adds the body mods for each car. With nano led technology they would not even have to paint the cars. You would pick the color, paint changes.

Here is where the money is made, you crypt lock the code, and the only way to update the car, remember the car is all canbus,, is to pay the man. Or you hack the entire car, and rewrite ALL it's code. Huge undertaking. But would make for an interesting open-source project. New cars are rolling datacenters the mechanical bits are a small part of the overall picture.