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> 901 ZF LSD rebuild, 30 years of parts collecting pays off
mgphoto
post Feb 18 2016, 01:40 PM
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Hello,
I started collecting parts of this project 30 years ago and the last parts have fallen into place.

In this post I hope to clear up some confusion and convey some of what I found trying to complete this project.

First piece
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purchased form PAR in Yonkers NY 1986 914.332.209.00 casting number 51D

The LSD found its way to me in 2013 from the venerable Cap'n Krusty

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The diff needed some work as it was missing internal spring plates which are NLA.
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Item number 4 in this factory illustration.
This part places tension on the clutch pack which is measured as drag.
The factory spec on this is 29 - 58 ft. lbs

This item can be replaced by what is now called a "cup" spring from and early 928
part no. 928.332.555.00
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seen here as item number 10

As for the internal wear parts, the 914 parts are NLA but, get this they are replaced by mostly 917 parts! WAY COOL.

Just the beginning, stay tuned!
Mike


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post Feb 28 2016, 10:57 PM
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OK here is the list of internal parts and my measurements.
First I labeled the consumable parts, those consisted of 4 fiber coated disks (#6) and 8 metal disks with external splines (#5 and #4). #4 is the cup spring which is NLA and replaced with the newer style belleville washer 928.332.555.20.
Additionally there are 2 differential shafts (#11) with 4 spider gears (#10) with 2 thrust rings (#7) and 2 bevel shaft gears (#8) with 2 treaded pieces (#9) and 2 circlips (not seen in this diagram), these make up the center of the diff. These items with the cover (#2), LSD body (#12) and 2 thrust washers (#3) complete the unit. Additionally #1 in this diagram is the cover attachment screws (NLA) for the 914 part, substitute the 65-89 911 pan head screw part 900.119.002.00, they are yellow colored not black, so don't let the concourse guys look into your 901 box!

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So 32 parts total make up this fascinating little gizmo!

I decided to make my measurements in SAE and metric.

Measurements of used parts

Outer spline A .0789 - 2.00 mm
Outer spline B .0785 - 1.99 mm
Outer spline C .0785 - 1.99 mm
Outer spline D .0780 - 1.98 mm
Outer spline E .0784 - 1.98 mm
Outer spline F .0785 - 1.99 mm
Outer spline G .0790 - 2.00 mm
Outer spline H .0795 - 2.02 mm

Fiber disk A .0765 - 1.94 mm
Fiber disk B .0750 - 1.91 mm
Fiber disk C .0775 - 1.96 mm
Fiber disk D .0775 - 1.96 mm


From here I will use SAE measurements, I will introduce metric measurements for illustration.

Than I set about measuring the body, cover and the thrust ring stack
Body internal 3.884 and the cover is .2440, the cover needs to be subtracted from the body because it fits inside so 3.640.
When assembled the thrust ring stack measures 2.682.

So we take inside of the LSD 3.640 and subtract the thrust ring stack 2.682 this leaves us with .958 space for the consumable parts.
There is a total of 12 disks, each group of 6 needs to take up .4790 or 12.17 mm

So there we have the used parts, next post I will measure the new parts.
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mgphoto   901 ZF LSD rebuild   Feb 18 2016, 01:40 PM
jd74914   I didn't realize there was a factory Salisbury...   Feb 18 2016, 02:09 PM
mgphoto   OK here are a few tidbits about the ZF LSD. Below...   Feb 19 2016, 11:16 PM
Mueller   Maybe you can find a shop that does hard turning? ...   Feb 20 2016, 12:06 AM
oldie914   The 901 332 209 21 flange was used for the early 1...   Feb 20 2016, 04:09 AM
mgphoto   The 901 332 209 21 flange was used for the early ...   Feb 20 2016, 11:12 AM
rgalla9146   This is great information. I look forward to t...   Feb 20 2016, 07:09 AM
oldie914   I decided to inventory my flange collection and pr...   Feb 21 2016, 05:36 AM
mgphoto   Hey oldie914 thanks, I was hoping you could help w...   Feb 21 2016, 10:36 AM
396   Thanks for this detailed information / education. ...   Feb 21 2016, 02:11 PM
rgalla9146   Are the 928 and 917 (!!!!!...   Feb 21 2016, 09:46 PM
mgphoto   Are the 928 and 917 (!!!!!...   Feb 23 2016, 10:02 AM
oldie914   When installing a new seal, clean the rust off the...   Feb 22 2016, 03:20 AM
mgphoto   When installing a new seal, clean the rust off th...   Feb 22 2016, 09:51 PM
veekry9   For those desiring a custom flange,I'm sure th...   Feb 22 2016, 11:55 AM
sixnotfour   911 owners do this more often than not when back...   Feb 22 2016, 12:43 PM
396   911 owners do this more often than not when bac...   Feb 22 2016, 01:44 PM
ThePaintedMan   Not to hijack, but I thought this was pertinent: ...   Feb 22 2016, 07:05 PM
mgphoto   OK so at this point I though I should get some ref...   Feb 23 2016, 09:49 AM
mgphoto   OK here is the list of internal parts and my measu...   Feb 28 2016, 10:57 PM
mgphoto   Now for the measurements of some new parts. Belle...   Mar 6 2016, 04:36 PM
396   Now for the measurements of some new parts. Bell...   Mar 6 2016, 07:08 PM
396   Now for the measurements of some new parts. Bel...   Mar 8 2016, 12:30 PM
mgphoto   [quote name='396' post='2312227' date='Mar 6 2016...   Mar 1 2017, 08:46 PM
jd74914   The diff looks so similar to the BMW e30 LSDs. IIR...   Mar 6 2016, 07:32 PM
mgphoto   The diff looks so similar to the BMW e30 LSDs. II...   Mar 7 2016, 12:03 PM
jd74914   Thank you! Now I just have to find my BMW mode...   Mar 7 2016, 01:10 PM
r_towle   You gave me hope. I don't feel like such a pro...   Mar 8 2016, 08:46 PM
mgphoto   Another small step for me, one giant leap for my t...   Apr 10 2017, 06:48 PM
rgalla9146   Is it possible to test a LSD on the bench ? Can...   Apr 10 2017, 07:38 PM
mgphoto   Is it possible to test a LSD on the bench ? Ca...   Apr 11 2017, 10:29 AM
914forme   Clamp one side in a vice. Take a torque wrench, y...   Apr 11 2017, 10:45 AM
jd74914   Not sure that will truly give you a full assessmen...   Aug 31 2017, 10:20 AM
mgphoto   Not sure that will truly give you a full assessme...   Aug 31 2017, 10:56 AM
jd74914   Since I am using new friction plates, the unit wi...   Aug 31 2017, 12:08 PM


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