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sanman
post Oct 1 2004, 11:02 AM
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Has any one sprayed both ppg & Omni.
you can get 2 stage omni for half the price of PPG
I have use PPG in the past and was wanting an opinion
of the omni which would be better single stage PPG or 2 stage omni. Any words from experiece would be appreciated (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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DonTraver
post Oct 1 2004, 09:05 PM
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Supplies: Quantity:
Paint 1 gallon
Reducer 1 gallon
Hardener 1 pint
Fish Eye Reducer 4 oz.

Sealer paint 1 qt
Epoxy Primer 2 qts
Mixing Cups 1 qt size
Tact Cloths 6+
Spot Putty 1 tube
Super Fine Bondo 1 can

Sand Paper:
400 Lots
600 1 package
Meguiar’s Unigrit Sand Papers
1000 1 package
1200 1 package
1500 1 package
2000 1 package

Compounds: Meguiar’s
Heavy, Medium, Light cut 1 bottle of each
Swirl Remover 2 bottles
Glaze 1 bottle

Orbital Buffer 10 inch 1
Orbital Buffer 6 inch 1
Buffing Pads for both 6+ each

36 inch sanding block made one, explain later
2 air filters for paint gun
Masking tape lots
Masking paper lots
Degreaser 1 gallon


OK, here goes.
Wash car with Degreaser to remove all road dirt and old wax, scrub. I use this degreaser I get at Costco in the Auto dept, pulls the old wax right out of the paint, use full strength, and don’t let it dry.

Identify body panels that are going to need work. Mark with a Marker Pen. Remove all body trim and bumpers. Glue 400 paper onto sanding block, go over entire car with sanding block, use a hand spray bottle filled with water and dish washing soap to keep surface wet, keep a hose handy. Rise/dry car, you’ll be able to see all the low spots. If there are small dings, parking lot, try to pound out, and then fill with super fine bondo or JB Weld. I filled the battery tray with JB Weld, and then shaped with a surfacing pad. If the battery ever eats the JB Weld, it’ll be time to throw out the carI removed doors, hoods, hood hinges, engine cover, lights, eyebrows, side marker lights, tail lights, door latches, pretty well stripped her down, if it could come off it did.

Made a 36 inch sanding block. Used 1/8 x 2 x 36 inch aluminum flat plate and 1 inch alum angle. I attached the angle to the flat plate with counter sunk screws, 6 inch spacing for screws. Do not weld together, you’ll warp plate. Attached sand paper to sanding block with spray adhesive, pain in the ass to change paper, used razor blades and lacquer thinner to clean plate for new paper. But it worked great on doors and hoods.

Note about Bondo, there are a couple of different types, one type holds water, one type doesn’t, get the one that doesn’t. Body shop supply should have it.

Start with one panel, I hung doors and hoods in garage and shot them that way. Put eye bolts in ceiling, hung them with bungee cords and wire. If you have old sheets, cover everything up for over spray.

THIS IS IMPORTANT: Before any painting. Find a good ground on car and any panels/doors you’re shooting, run a wire to a water pipe, clean water pipe for good connection. I shot 1 fender without doing that, then one fender with a ground. I had at least 80-90% less dust in the paint with the ground wire. I painted my car in the driveway; I always shot the paint in the morning, before any wind came up, prepped car night before.

When you think you’re all ready, lol. Mask, prep car for paint. Shoot sealer coat of paint, this seals old paint, preps for primer. Let dry, wet sand with 400 sand paper. You have 48 to 72 hours to shot primer over sealer paint , shoot primer, wet sand with 400 sand paper, then 48 to 72 hours to shoot color coat over primer, or you start over. These times are another reason I worked one panel at a time, easier to shoot one panel, than the whole car.

When you shoot color coats, first shoot a light tack coat, let dry 20 minutes, and then shoot at least 2 color coats at around 15 apart. Watch for flies, they like the smell of fresh paint, ask me how I know. This is how I solved the fly problem, I had my neighbor bring his big dog over and take a dump in my yard. Fly strips, fly catchers didn’t work, but that dog sure did lol.

Let paint dry 4-5 days, in the sun if you can, then start the color sanding start with 1000 up to 2000, use lots of water mixed with dish washing soap. Then start buffing, heavy, medium, light, swirl remover, glaze, and wax. Change buffing pads a lot, only do about 6-8 square feet before changing pad. I used the degreaser to clean pads, put them in sun to dry.

Like I said, there is no way to speed up a good paint job; it’s time consuming, often overwhelming. That’s one reason I did one panel at a time, plus I was driving her and racing her during the restoration. As long as I just concentrated on one panel at a time, I didn’t get overwhelmed.

You won’t like this. 2 weeks after I finished all the paint, I went to Harbor Freight to pick up some tools. I’m waiting to check out, this guy comes into the store, says,” Does anyone own a black Porsche”. I said OMG, yes. He’d just backed his Ford F-250 with ugly dock bumper over the front end, got both fenders, turn signals, and the hood. The good news, he didn’t run, the bad news, I got to redo the whole front end, again.

Chances are, I forgot somethig, any questions, ask. One other thing, I've been painting Harley's for about 20+ years. I've never had a dis-satisfied customer yet. Take Care, Don
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