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> Relationship between idle jets and idle mix screws
era vulgaris
post May 9 2016, 04:06 PM
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How much can one compensate for the other?
For example, with larger jets and idle screws further in, could you tune a set of carbs identically to another set of the same carbs that had smaller jets with the mix screw further out?

I want to experiment with going a little leaner at idle and seeing how my engine likes it. I'm trying to decide if I should order a smaller set of idle jets or if I can achieve the same result by just turning the screws in further. Basically, what is the difference? Don't they achieve the same ends? Obviously there's a limit on the rich side because there's only so much fuel a jet will allow to flow. But if you're trying to lean it out, what's the difference between going to a smaller jet or just turning in the screw?
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post May 9 2016, 06:47 PM
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It idles around 1100.
Yeah I normally roll up to a stop in neutral. I don't hold the clutch pedal down unless I'm shifting.
Like I said, it's only once every so often. But it's a slow dying when it happens.
It idles fine when I get to the stop, then down 100rpm, hangs out there for a few seconds, then down another 100 rpm, hangs there for a few seconds, etc until it starts struggling to stay alive. Then it's the lightest touch on the gas pedal and it comes back. Sometimes that's all it takes and it's fine again. But if it's like the 3rd time or more that I've driven the car that day, it usually doesn't come back to idle, and that's when I have to gently hold the gas pedal with my heel. But then maybe the next stoplight it's totally fine again. It's not a consistent or constant problem at all. Just happens enough to be annoying.
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post May 10 2016, 04:35 AM
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QUOTE(era vulgaris @ May 9 2016, 04:47 PM) *

It idles around 1100.
Yeah I normally roll up to a stop in neutral. I don't hold the clutch pedal down unless I'm shifting.
Like I said, it's only once every so often. But it's a slow dying when it happens.
It idles fine when I get to the stop, then down 100rpm, hangs out there for a few seconds, then down another 100 rpm, hangs there for a few seconds, etc until it starts struggling to stay alive. Then it's the lightest touch on the gas pedal and it comes back. Sometimes that's all it takes and it's fine again. But if it's like the 3rd time or more that I've driven the car that day, it usually doesn't come back to idle, and that's when I have to gently hold the gas pedal with my heel. But then maybe the next stoplight it's totally fine again. It's not a consistent or constant problem at all. Just happens enough to be annoying.



IT sounds to me like 1100 rpm is off the idle circuit and into the transitions. try to set the mixtures at a slower speed (less throttle plate opening)Last steps this set the idle speed

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era vulgaris   Relationship between idle jets and idle mix screws   May 9 2016, 04:06 PM
Justinp71   On all the carbs I've worked on the idle screw...   May 9 2016, 04:27 PM
r_towle   First answer, no, it does not work that way. Then,...   May 9 2016, 05:41 PM
era vulgaris   Thanks for the info guys! I already have an o...   May 9 2016, 06:23 PM
rhodyguy   At what rpm does your car idle? Does your car stil...   May 9 2016, 06:40 PM
era vulgaris   It idles around 1100. Yeah I normally roll up to...   May 9 2016, 06:47 PM
rfinegan   It idles around 1100. Yeah I normally roll up t...   May 10 2016, 04:35 AM
somd914   This doesn't answer your question but there is...   May 9 2016, 07:00 PM
PancakePorsche   After 3-4 turns out, idle mixture screws are not ...   May 10 2016, 12:21 AM
rhodyguy   See if you can achieve a stable idle @ 950rpm.   May 10 2016, 07:15 AM
era vulgaris   After 3-4 turns out, idle mixture screws are not...   May 10 2016, 07:42 AM
Justinp71   Yes, AFR gauges are great. Also make sure you don...   May 10 2016, 04:05 PM
r_towle   Talking about heat syncing and how it affects the ...   May 10 2016, 04:13 PM
era vulgaris   I do have phenolic spacers between the heads and t...   May 10 2016, 04:40 PM
r_towle   I saw the thread, was not blind, just bored stiff ...   May 10 2016, 07:25 PM
era vulgaris   Sorry, the missed thread comment was directed at J...   May 10 2016, 09:37 PM
r_towle   Ok, Sounds like a great car that runs perfectly fi...   May 10 2016, 11:05 PM
era vulgaris   Haha, yeah you're probably right. And if this...   May 11 2016, 07:48 AM
r_towle   Thus why I have no gauges in mine....I took out th...   May 11 2016, 07:45 PM


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