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| cary |
May 8 2016, 07:55 AM
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In putting Mark's engine back in and replacing the broken accelerator cable. It seems the cable isn't quite long enough to work/fit correctly. In the FI arrangement the cable crosses the engine at 45 degrees. In dual carbs it needs to come at the bar at 90 degrees. Which pulls the bowden out of the firewall. Which will allow water down the cable tube.
What have others done to work around this ? |
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| Darren C |
May 12 2016, 03:44 PM
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Ok Aaron,
Lets look at what I wrote and what you replied…. 1, To be frank... You have no idea what you are talking about. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion I respect that, so let me answer. 2. The throttle levers stay on and are "pinned" to the pulleys. I wrote, you take off the weber levers with a QUESTION mark as I was NOT 100% certain. I wrote that in my opinion it was over engineered. Pinning pulleys to levers is over engineering. Like the bracketry to the carbs it's lazy engineering to have all those slotted holes and even more lazy to fit a pulley to a spindle instead of a lever, then leave the lever on and pin a pulley to that. The lever is only held on with one nut for heavens sake. Your point has totally confirmed my observation that its bad engineering. 3, The cable connecting the master to the slave is ideal as it doesn't change with heat or expansion. Once the slack is taken out you are more or less done. A cable between master and slave I wrote “you’re totally reliant upon Carb B’s return spring to keep the cable tension” this is ok until a spring breaks. It is not fail safe like a solid rod linkage. 4, All the standard springs for the carbs stay in place, so you are no better or worse than with a linkage. If one carb hangs open with either system you have a potential problem. We agree believe it or not. This is my point entirely because its a cable between A & B if any carb hangs open or its return spring breaks (carb B) you have a potential problem. Any throttle linkage needs to be intrinsically safe. This is why a fully cable system is not a good idea. 5, This setup is WAY smoother than my PERFECT CB hexbar set up. My balance and feel is perfect with this setup. Something I could never achieve no matter what I did with a hexbar setup. Again I never said this set up wasn’t smooth, I never said it wasn’t better than the hex set up for smoothness or feel or ease of set up. I said it was worse only in its inability to fail safe as in point 4 that we both agree on. We both know the Hex bar system is poor. I race the stuff Chris builds and appreciate his engineering greatly. Not a fan boy, just a user. I understand fully that I’m against fans and friends of Chris or whoever makes whichever linkage. I have constantly maintained that I am not interested in the people behind these linkages, only to point out as an engineer, the areas in which these linkages can be improved for the benefit of all. Again Arron I respectfully ask those of you who have issues with my observations to take a little time to read into and understand what I’m saying here rather than shoot me down based upon your interpretation of what you think I’m saying. |
cary Accelerator Cable for Dual Carbs ? May 8 2016, 07:55 AM
rfinegan Take a look by the pedal cluster and the pivot for... May 8 2016, 08:13 AM
somd914
Take a look by the pedal cluster and the pivot fo... May 8 2016, 08:27 AM
rhodyguy Is the linkage on the rear of the carbs? May 8 2016, 08:35 AM
cary
Is the linkage on the rear of the carbs?
I... May 8 2016, 08:47 AM
cary Cable itself is long enough. But when I use the ac... May 8 2016, 08:36 AM
somd914
Cable itself is long enough. But when I use the a... May 8 2016, 08:44 AM
cary
Cable itself is long enough. But when I use the ... May 8 2016, 08:49 AM
rhodyguy I don't recall the inner sheath sticking out t... May 8 2016, 09:11 AM
cary That ones in the garbage can. Busted and the barre... May 8 2016, 09:16 AM
MarkV My set up might be different because of the a/c co... May 8 2016, 09:18 AM
cary That's where it needs to come from. That will ... May 8 2016, 09:22 AM
SA-914 This is what I have so far. But the pedal feels l... May 8 2016, 09:59 AM
Darren C WTF
SA-914 That bellcrank linkage geometry is AL... May 8 2016, 02:13 PM
somd914 Looks like SA914 is running a CSP linkage system. ... May 8 2016, 07:06 PM
SA-914 Somd914-you got any pics of your installed system?... May 8 2016, 09:32 PM
Darren C From reading the installation manual somd914 kindl... May 9 2016, 12:51 AM
somd914 I can post a few pics tonight.
But for keeping it... May 9 2016, 03:53 AM
Darren C The KISS comment is aimed at CSP for bringing to m... May 9 2016, 05:15 AM
somd914
The KISS comment is aimed at CSP for bringing to ... May 9 2016, 05:35 PM
dcecc1968 When I switched to dual webers with hexbar and rep... May 9 2016, 06:29 AM
cary Dang, I didn't know that there was quite this... May 9 2016, 07:09 AM
rgolia Get the tangerine racing cable system...what a dif... May 9 2016, 04:26 PM
SA-914 Got it. Just need to shorten my bracket to get it... May 9 2016, 07:12 PM
Darren C Thanks for the kind comments.
I can understand you... May 10 2016, 01:25 AM
ThePaintedMan
The tangerine racing cable system is SHOCKING. Do... May 10 2016, 08:59 AM

Darren C
The tangerine racing cable system is SHOCKING. D... May 10 2016, 09:17 AM
yeahmag
RG,
The tangerine racing cable system is SHOCKIN... May 12 2016, 03:21 PM
rhodyguy If YOU can build a better mouse trap do so. Let it... May 10 2016, 10:34 AM
rgolia Well sorry I chimed in and thanks for defending Ch... May 10 2016, 12:54 PM
Darren C Ok, time out.
George,
Please change anger & ... May 10 2016, 03:05 PM
Racer Chris
If any of the vendors visit this site or if any o... May 12 2016, 03:46 PM
Darren C
If any of the vendors visit this site or if any ... May 12 2016, 04:05 PM
ThePaintedMan
You're just too smart for the rest of us Darr... May 12 2016, 05:00 PM
rgolia Darren,
All good here. I understand where you are... May 10 2016, 03:30 PM
rhodyguy So, your bluntness can be acceptable and explained... May 10 2016, 04:04 PM
Darren C
So, your bluntness can be acceptable and explaine... May 10 2016, 04:10 PM
rhodyguy Of course!
BUT, considering the other linkag... May 10 2016, 04:16 PM
Darren C I'll give you that one.
But genetically you k... May 10 2016, 04:22 PM
cary Is it me, or is the bar style dual carb linkage pr... May 10 2016, 06:12 PM
somd914
Is it me, or is the bar style dual carb linkage p... May 10 2016, 06:37 PM
cary I'll retract that statement/question. I didn... May 10 2016, 08:21 PM
Darren C Cary,
Sometimes you have to go with your gut feeli... May 12 2016, 05:44 AM
somd914
If anything I'd say the DD with FI has an is... May 12 2016, 04:03 PM
rhodyguy Muddied the fucking water? Dude, you tore the link... May 12 2016, 04:28 PM
Darren C
Muddied the fucking water? Dude, you tore the lin... May 12 2016, 04:35 PM
rhodyguy Ok one more since you have now made personal. As o... May 12 2016, 04:58 PM
Darren C
Ok one more since you have now made personal. As ... May 12 2016, 11:26 PM
rhodyguy Chum the waters. The sparkling lure flashes. Fish ... May 13 2016, 07:06 AM
Darren C You're gonna need a bigger boat. May 13 2016, 07:35 AM
jd74914 Apologies for sticking my nose in here since I ... May 13 2016, 08:19 AM
Darren C Thanks jd, much appreciated. I waste a lot of my l... May 13 2016, 02:06 PM
Scott S "I also like to think that in some way also i... May 13 2016, 03:51 PM
Darren C Its going to "happen" when you don't... May 13 2016, 04:34 PM
rhodyguy :flag1: :brain: :bravo3d: May 13 2016, 05:15 PM
Darren C Exactly Rhodyguy, thanks.(Is that you cutting your... May 14 2016, 06:10 AM
rhodyguy :pissoff: :mueba: :splat: May 14 2016, 06:32 AM
Darren C You're trouble. I have your card marked Banana... May 14 2016, 06:36 AM
rhodyguy :idea: :unsure: :pissoff: ... May 14 2016, 06:47 AM
somd914 I've been sitting on the sidelines after this ... May 14 2016, 06:51 AM
rhodyguy Egotistical novellas...BLOODY BRILLIANT!! ... May 14 2016, 07:25 AM
bandjoey Guys Guys Guys Guys Guys :Qarl:
Cal... May 14 2016, 09:17 AM
somd914
Guys Guys Guys Guys Guys :Qarl:
Ca... May 14 2016, 10:32 AM
Darren C Somd914,
I’m sorry you feel the thread was hi j... May 14 2016, 01:17 PM
somd914 Darren,
Fair enough, I appreciate your taking the... May 14 2016, 02:44 PM
Darren C Thanks Scott.
On a lighter note...
https://www.y... May 15 2016, 01:19 AM
rhodyguy Did you attend a public school? May 15 2016, 08:16 AM
Darren C Change of bait eh Banana-man? Maybe not so?
Like ... May 15 2016, 09:19 AM
rhodyguy That would be mr powers to you. Or Kevin. How abou... May 15 2016, 09:32 AM
Darren C What...answer that either way just so you can make... May 15 2016, 03:46 PM
SirAndy :WTF: Thread closed ... May 16 2016, 12:24 PM![]() ![]() |
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