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| cary |
May 8 2016, 07:55 AM
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In putting Mark's engine back in and replacing the broken accelerator cable. It seems the cable isn't quite long enough to work/fit correctly. In the FI arrangement the cable crosses the engine at 45 degrees. In dual carbs it needs to come at the bar at 90 degrees. Which pulls the bowden out of the firewall. Which will allow water down the cable tube.
What have others done to work around this ? |
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| jd74914 |
May 13 2016, 08:19 AM
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Its alive ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,875 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
Apologies for sticking my nose in here since I have no real stake in the game but I really felt compelled to comment since Darren is taking so much fire. I'm not going to comment on any of the linkages; they all have positives and negatives ranging from price-point to complexity to robustness. I also know Racer Chris well and consider him a friend. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
What I really wanted to say is that I can see where Darren is coming from and it seems that most people are getting caught up in the criticism rather than the intent. Maybe his writing is a little harsh, but it's quite difficult to actually read intended tone from forum text. When you spend a lot of time looking at failures you end up being hypercritical which isn't necessarily bad thing. Almost all car parts can use improvement in some manor, though in general older Porsche design is quite good (look at the stress relieved heads of the lower shock bolts, etc.). It seems that not many people here have sat in a lot of detailed FMEAs. They tend to change your perspective on things a little bit, especially when people who have extensive experience with reliability and failure analysis are in the room. The discussion is really focused around improvements with participants who have less bias due to decreased stake in the game than the designer. Essentially you are 'arm-chair quarterbacking" to increase safety and reliability. In an FMEA you are assessing the design for an impact factor which is based on severity of the failure's effects and frequency of failure. The problem with aftermarket car parts is that the severity rating can be quite high (death in the extreme), but in general the occurrence rating is unknown. In engineering failure analysis, low occurrences are often measured in mean-time between failures of 10,000 to one million hours, etc. That sample just isn't possible with specialty parts for niche cars. As far as the throttle actuator discussion here I play (work is only work when it's not fun) a fluidic/thermal controls engineer and am personally a huge fan losing the throttle cable altogether and going DBW since you can tweek the actuation curve, but that's not really in the scope for most induction packages here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
cary Accelerator Cable for Dual Carbs ? May 8 2016, 07:55 AM
rfinegan Take a look by the pedal cluster and the pivot for... May 8 2016, 08:13 AM
somd914
Take a look by the pedal cluster and the pivot fo... May 8 2016, 08:27 AM
rhodyguy Is the linkage on the rear of the carbs? May 8 2016, 08:35 AM
cary
Is the linkage on the rear of the carbs?
I... May 8 2016, 08:47 AM
cary Cable itself is long enough. But when I use the ac... May 8 2016, 08:36 AM
somd914
Cable itself is long enough. But when I use the a... May 8 2016, 08:44 AM
cary
Cable itself is long enough. But when I use the ... May 8 2016, 08:49 AM
rhodyguy I don't recall the inner sheath sticking out t... May 8 2016, 09:11 AM
cary That ones in the garbage can. Busted and the barre... May 8 2016, 09:16 AM
MarkV My set up might be different because of the a/c co... May 8 2016, 09:18 AM
cary That's where it needs to come from. That will ... May 8 2016, 09:22 AM
SA-914 This is what I have so far. But the pedal feels l... May 8 2016, 09:59 AM
Darren C WTF
SA-914 That bellcrank linkage geometry is AL... May 8 2016, 02:13 PM
somd914 Looks like SA914 is running a CSP linkage system. ... May 8 2016, 07:06 PM
SA-914 Somd914-you got any pics of your installed system?... May 8 2016, 09:32 PM
Darren C From reading the installation manual somd914 kindl... May 9 2016, 12:51 AM
somd914 I can post a few pics tonight.
But for keeping it... May 9 2016, 03:53 AM
Darren C The KISS comment is aimed at CSP for bringing to m... May 9 2016, 05:15 AM
somd914
The KISS comment is aimed at CSP for bringing to ... May 9 2016, 05:35 PM
dcecc1968 When I switched to dual webers with hexbar and rep... May 9 2016, 06:29 AM
cary Dang, I didn't know that there was quite this... May 9 2016, 07:09 AM
rgolia Get the tangerine racing cable system...what a dif... May 9 2016, 04:26 PM
SA-914 Got it. Just need to shorten my bracket to get it... May 9 2016, 07:12 PM
Darren C Thanks for the kind comments.
I can understand you... May 10 2016, 01:25 AM
ThePaintedMan
The tangerine racing cable system is SHOCKING. Do... May 10 2016, 08:59 AM

Darren C
The tangerine racing cable system is SHOCKING. D... May 10 2016, 09:17 AM
yeahmag
RG,
The tangerine racing cable system is SHOCKIN... May 12 2016, 03:21 PM
rhodyguy If YOU can build a better mouse trap do so. Let it... May 10 2016, 10:34 AM
rgolia Well sorry I chimed in and thanks for defending Ch... May 10 2016, 12:54 PM
Darren C Ok, time out.
George,
Please change anger & ... May 10 2016, 03:05 PM
Racer Chris
If any of the vendors visit this site or if any o... May 12 2016, 03:46 PM
Darren C
If any of the vendors visit this site or if any ... May 12 2016, 04:05 PM
ThePaintedMan
You're just too smart for the rest of us Darr... May 12 2016, 05:00 PM
rgolia Darren,
All good here. I understand where you are... May 10 2016, 03:30 PM
rhodyguy So, your bluntness can be acceptable and explained... May 10 2016, 04:04 PM
Darren C
So, your bluntness can be acceptable and explaine... May 10 2016, 04:10 PM
rhodyguy Of course!
BUT, considering the other linkag... May 10 2016, 04:16 PM
Darren C I'll give you that one.
But genetically you k... May 10 2016, 04:22 PM
cary Is it me, or is the bar style dual carb linkage pr... May 10 2016, 06:12 PM
somd914
Is it me, or is the bar style dual carb linkage p... May 10 2016, 06:37 PM
cary I'll retract that statement/question. I didn... May 10 2016, 08:21 PM
Darren C Cary,
Sometimes you have to go with your gut feeli... May 12 2016, 05:44 AM
somd914
If anything I'd say the DD with FI has an is... May 12 2016, 04:03 PM
Darren C Ok Aaron,
Lets look at what I wrote and what you ... May 12 2016, 03:44 PM
rhodyguy Muddied the fucking water? Dude, you tore the link... May 12 2016, 04:28 PM
Darren C
Muddied the fucking water? Dude, you tore the lin... May 12 2016, 04:35 PM
rhodyguy Ok one more since you have now made personal. As o... May 12 2016, 04:58 PM
Darren C
Ok one more since you have now made personal. As ... May 12 2016, 11:26 PM
rhodyguy Chum the waters. The sparkling lure flashes. Fish ... May 13 2016, 07:06 AM
Darren C You're gonna need a bigger boat. May 13 2016, 07:35 AM
Darren C Thanks jd, much appreciated. I waste a lot of my l... May 13 2016, 02:06 PM
Scott S "I also like to think that in some way also i... May 13 2016, 03:51 PM
Darren C Its going to "happen" when you don't... May 13 2016, 04:34 PM
rhodyguy :flag1: :brain: :bravo3d: May 13 2016, 05:15 PM
Darren C Exactly Rhodyguy, thanks.(Is that you cutting your... May 14 2016, 06:10 AM
rhodyguy :pissoff: :mueba: :splat: May 14 2016, 06:32 AM
Darren C You're trouble. I have your card marked Banana... May 14 2016, 06:36 AM
rhodyguy :idea: :unsure: :pissoff: ... May 14 2016, 06:47 AM
somd914 I've been sitting on the sidelines after this ... May 14 2016, 06:51 AM
rhodyguy Egotistical novellas...BLOODY BRILLIANT!! ... May 14 2016, 07:25 AM
bandjoey Guys Guys Guys Guys Guys :Qarl:
Cal... May 14 2016, 09:17 AM
somd914
Guys Guys Guys Guys Guys :Qarl:
Ca... May 14 2016, 10:32 AM
Darren C Somd914,
I’m sorry you feel the thread was hi j... May 14 2016, 01:17 PM
somd914 Darren,
Fair enough, I appreciate your taking the... May 14 2016, 02:44 PM
Darren C Thanks Scott.
On a lighter note...
https://www.y... May 15 2016, 01:19 AM
rhodyguy Did you attend a public school? May 15 2016, 08:16 AM
Darren C Change of bait eh Banana-man? Maybe not so?
Like ... May 15 2016, 09:19 AM
rhodyguy That would be mr powers to you. Or Kevin. How abou... May 15 2016, 09:32 AM
Darren C What...answer that either way just so you can make... May 15 2016, 03:46 PM
SirAndy :WTF: Thread closed ... May 16 2016, 12:24 PM![]() ![]() |
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