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| Keith914 |
Sep 23 2016, 10:21 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 248 Joined: 29-April 16 From: Laguna Beach, California 92651 Member No.: 19,948 Region Association: Southern California |
To the "brain trust". Two experienced engineer/mechanics have described the following:
When our Type IV engines are at operating temperature and rpm's exceed about 3,000 the pressure relief valve (ball bearing valve seen in the oil filter bracket) opens up and prevents or reduces oil flow through the filter. Thus, this reduces oil flow through external oil coolers attached via a "pancake" to the engine, greatly reducing there cooling effect when needed most, e.g. at the track. They have altered this valve so that it cannot open, and advised to keep rpm's low until the engine is warmed up -- particularly in cold climates. there are various ways to "plug" this valve, easy when removed from the engine, -- drill and thread a bolt with lock nut to hold the ball bearing closed, press in an aluminum plug, etc. Two questions: 1) are there other (than too high an oil pressure with cold engine with higher rpm's) unintended consequences, and 2) can this valve be "plugged" and how, without removing the engine to get at it? |
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| stugray |
Sep 23 2016, 06:58 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,825 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
I ran my racecar for a whole season with a sandwich adapter to my oil cooler with the bypass valve in stock form.
I didnt have any trouble keeping the car cool. (I DID get pissed however when I dumped about $40 worth of brand new Brad Penn on the floor of my garage by getting the o-ring pinched during a routine oil change) One secret is to make the lines to the OC as large as possible to reduce pressure drop across the OC loop. I used 12 AN to the front & back. I have since changed to the OC adapter plate mod instead of the sandwich adapter. (anyone need a sandwich adapter with 12AN fittings?) |
Keith914 Oil pressure relief valve. Sep 23 2016, 10:21 AM
Racer Chris AFAIK, the only downside to disabling the bypass v... Sep 23 2016, 10:48 AM
Elliot Cannon Doesn't that valve open by oil pressure depres... Sep 23 2016, 12:05 PM
Racer Chris
Doesn't that valve open by oil pressure depre... Sep 23 2016, 01:19 PM
N_Jay
[quote name='Elliot Cannon' post='2402166' date='... Sep 23 2016, 01:27 PM
N_Jay Yes there are heavier springs.
You can go up unti... Sep 23 2016, 12:20 PM
Racer Chris
You can go up until you risk popping the oil fi... Sep 23 2016, 01:23 PM
Racer Chris Keith called it a relief valve, but he described t... Sep 23 2016, 01:44 PM
The Cabinetmaker Njay they are referring to the filter bypass ball ... Sep 23 2016, 01:48 PM
N_Jay
Njay they are referring to the filter bypass ball... Sep 23 2016, 02:00 PM
barefoot
Njay they are referring to the filter bypass ball... Sep 24 2016, 04:56 AM
Racer Chris a couple psi Sep 23 2016, 02:53 PM
Keith914 I am referring to the valve that has a ball bearin... Sep 23 2016, 04:53 PM
stugray This is the focus of the OP I believe:
http://www... Sep 24 2016, 06:59 AM
Keith914 Thanks for the input and flow diagrams.
It is cle... Sep 24 2016, 12:40 PM
jim_hoyland Question: does the oil filter relief valve in effe... Nov 3 2016, 02:20 PM
stugray
Question: does the oil filter relief valve in eff... Nov 3 2016, 02:26 PM
jim_hoyland
Question: does the oil filter relief valve in ef... Nov 3 2016, 04:18 PM
yeahmag I've taken to pulling them out and TIGing in a... Nov 3 2016, 05:01 PM
GregAmy Just picked up on this topic (was away racing last... Nov 4 2016, 08:52 AM
jim_hoyland Does all the oil pass through the filter and then ... Nov 4 2016, 04:31 PM![]() ![]() |
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