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> 2.0 Crank & Head Venting Issues
tjtryon
post Oct 17 2016, 03:56 PM
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Car: 1973 2.0 with dual Webbers

Issue: I have a leak from the drivers side valve cover, and poking around, I know my crank & head venting is not correct, which may be what's causing issues. I wanted to fix this first, before I change the valve cover gasket.

I have what I believe is the CB breather box already on the car. It has a hose connected to the oil filler area, one to the fan shroud, and one that is venting to atmosphere.

I have a hose port at the base of the carb intake manifold on both sides, that does seem to vent air out. I assume these are the head or valve cover vents, but am not sure. Additionally, nothing in the system seems to pull vaccuum, unless the fan shroud vent does so.

I have 3 main questions: What are the hose ports at the base of the carb intakes (front of intake on drivers side, rear of intake on passengers side)? What's the correct routing of the hoses? Where does the system pull a vaccuum?

Many thanks in advance!



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post Oct 19 2016, 02:46 PM
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OK, GregAmy and Ham say to plug the 45° ports at the base of the carbs, and Falcor said it was a factor in making his engine puke from the valve cover. I have new (cork) valve cover gaskets (Felpro) to put on the engine, which looks like a 10 minute job (I'm sure it's not though), so hopefully, between that, and getting proper venting to the engine, mine will stop puking oil.

Replacing gasket looks to be:
1) Remove spring clip
2) Pull valve cover
3) Remove old gasket
4) Clean both mating surfaces
5) Put new gasket on cover
6) Mount cover on head
7) Return spring clip

Can I use grease to hold gasket on valve cover, or do I need to use something stronger like an RTV? Anything I missed above? If not, it looks to be a 10 minute job.

Afterwards, I need to:
1) Cap both valve cover/head vents
2) Only have host from filler cap area to breather box
3) From there, I can run a draft line from breater to vent to atmosphere below the car, vent to carb, or vent to a K&N filter. I assume venting to carb is more environmental, venting to a little K&N filter will cause a fine oily mess in the engine compartment, and venting to atmosphere would be bad, environmentally, but would be fairly simple, and provide a slight amount of vacuum to the system.

Thoughts, suggestions or advice on what will make this simpler to complete this evening would be greatly appreciated!
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post Oct 20 2016, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(tjtryon @ Oct 19 2016, 04:46 PM) *

OK, GregAmy and Ham say to plug the 45° ports at the base of the carbs...


Negative, Ghost Rider. The Tangerine kit takes hoses off each head (to properly vent the top ends) as well as a hose off the port next to the oil fill, and runs them to the container. From the bottom of that container is a drain hose that is plumbed to a fitting at the base of the oil fill box.

I decisively suggest you vent both heads and block to that container.
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tjtryon   2.0 Crank & Head Venting Issues   Oct 17 2016, 03:56 PM
Vacca Rabite   Its an oil overflow system. Some people swear by ...   Oct 17 2016, 04:14 PM
tjtryon   Its an oil overflow system. Some people swear by...   Oct 17 2016, 04:23 PM
The Cabinetmaker   Your description is confusing. A pic is worth a th...   Oct 17 2016, 05:20 PM
falcor75   Wait.....your breather bottle is connected to the ...   Oct 17 2016, 11:17 PM
tjtryon   Wait.....your breather bottle is connected to the...   Oct 18 2016, 06:28 AM
HAM Inc   Plug the vents from the heads. You don't want ...   Oct 18 2016, 06:32 AM
falcor75   Plug the vents from the heads. You don't want...   Oct 18 2016, 10:59 PM
GregAmy   This is in my near future for the 2L race car. I...   Oct 18 2016, 07:11 AM
HAM Inc   Sounds like a leaky valve cover gasket. Warped val...   Oct 19 2016, 06:40 AM
tjtryon   OK, GregAmy and Ham say to plug the 45° ports at ...   Oct 19 2016, 02:46 PM
HAM Inc   OK, GregAmy and Ham say to plug the 45° ports at...   Oct 19 2016, 03:19 PM
GregAmy   OK, GregAmy and Ham say to plug the 45° ports at...   Oct 20 2016, 10:23 AM
barefoot   OK, GregAmy and Ham say to plug the 45° ports a...   Oct 20 2016, 10:56 AM
GregAmy   You say vent the heads to the breather can, but HA...   Oct 20 2016, 02:01 PM
HAM Inc   You say vent the heads to the breather can, but H...   Oct 20 2016, 02:11 PM
GregAmy   I'm not interested in rehashing this subject, ...   Oct 20 2016, 02:17 PM
HAM Inc   I'm not interested in rehashing this subject,...   Oct 20 2016, 02:27 PM
GregAmy   It's worth noting that VW/Porsche did away wit...   Oct 20 2016, 08:37 PM
stugray   I do not vent my heads. I use the stiock breather ...   Oct 20 2016, 12:03 PM
The Cabinetmaker   I asked for some pics. You ignored me. Still no pi...   Oct 20 2016, 01:47 PM
ThePaintedMan   :popcorn: http://hamheads.com/type4-test.php Th...   Oct 20 2016, 10:21 PM
GregAmy   http://hamheads.com/type4-test.php Thank you, th...   Oct 21 2016, 06:03 AM
HAM Inc   [url=http://hamheads.com/type4-test.php]http://h...   Oct 21 2016, 06:44 AM
Jake Raby   Lately I have had good luck with a balance tube be...   Oct 21 2016, 12:35 AM
Spoke   This thread is very timely for me. I just installe...   Oct 21 2016, 07:46 AM
HAM Inc   This thread is very timely for me. I just install...   Oct 21 2016, 02:55 PM
old914dog   Gents I have been running the "dog" out ...   Oct 21 2016, 04:58 PM
Elliot Cannon   When FAT Performance built my engine this is how t...   Oct 21 2016, 05:21 PM
SirAndy   I have what I believe is the CB breather box alrea...   Oct 21 2016, 05:35 PM
BK911   I used Andy's setup for years and always had a...   Oct 21 2016, 05:47 PM
HAM Inc   I've never been one to tell someone to stop do...   Oct 21 2016, 06:48 PM


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