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> 2.0 Crank & Head Venting Issues
tjtryon
post Oct 17 2016, 03:56 PM
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Car: 1973 2.0 with dual Webbers

Issue: I have a leak from the drivers side valve cover, and poking around, I know my crank & head venting is not correct, which may be what's causing issues. I wanted to fix this first, before I change the valve cover gasket.

I have what I believe is the CB breather box already on the car. It has a hose connected to the oil filler area, one to the fan shroud, and one that is venting to atmosphere.

I have a hose port at the base of the carb intake manifold on both sides, that does seem to vent air out. I assume these are the head or valve cover vents, but am not sure. Additionally, nothing in the system seems to pull vaccuum, unless the fan shroud vent does so.

I have 3 main questions: What are the hose ports at the base of the carb intakes (front of intake on drivers side, rear of intake on passengers side)? What's the correct routing of the hoses? Where does the system pull a vaccuum?

Many thanks in advance!



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Spoke
post Oct 21 2016, 07:46 AM
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This thread is very timely for me. I just installed a 2056 with dual carbs. I have the passenger side head vented only through a filter and the driver side head and chimney vented together through another filter. No catch can is used at this time.

I have 2 issues:

1) The passenger side head vent is dripping oil on the engine and making a hell of a mess on top of the engine and below it. Very little oil is coming out of the driver side head + chimney vents.

2) Gasses from the filters from the crankcase are being sucked back into the cooling fan and eventually into the interior when cabin heat is on. I've mounted the filters next to the carb filters to try to get the gasses to be sucked back into the intakes. Positioning the filters next to the carb intakes work ok when the throttle is open. When the throttle is closed on deaccel, I get very noticeable vented burnt oil odor in the interior.

I'm looking to solve both issues.

From Len's and Jake's findings, it sounds like I can connect both head vents together with a straight hose. Then add a filter to the chimney. Should the chimney filter also include a catch can? The chimney filter should then vent the crankcase gasses back into the carb filters to keep the gasses from entering the cabin during heating season (about 1/2 the year here in PA).

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post Oct 21 2016, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(Spoke @ Oct 21 2016, 06:46 AM) *

This thread is very timely for me. I just installed a 2056 with dual carbs. I have the passenger side head vented only through a filter and the driver side head and chimney vented together through another filter. No catch can is used at this time.

I have 2 issues:

1) The passenger side head vent is dripping oil on the engine and making a hell of a mess on top of the engine and below it. Very little oil is coming out of the driver side head + chimney vents.

2) Gasses from the filters from the crankcase are being sucked back into the cooling fan and eventually into the interior when cabin heat is on. I've mounted the filters next to the carb filters to try to get the gasses to be sucked back into the intakes. Positioning the filters next to the carb intakes work ok when the throttle is open. When the throttle is closed on deaccel, I get very noticeable vented burnt oil odor in the interior.

I'm looking to solve both issues.

From Len's and Jake's findings, it sounds like I can connect both head vents together with a straight hose. Then add a filter to the chimney. Should the chimney filter also include a catch can? The chimney filter should then vent the crankcase gasses back into the carb filters to keep the gasses from entering the cabin during heating season (about 1/2 the year here in PA).

Comments? TIA

Sounds like your factory vent tubes are loose. They're very thin wall aluminum tubes that are just pressed into the heads. It's very common for them to come lose. It's also common for them to crimp and/or bend when hoses are installed and hoseclamps over tightened.

The tubes will usually come out without a fight. You might be able to pull yours out with the hose. Leave the hose tight on the fitting and yank it.

The opening in the head can be easily tapped for 1/4" npt fitting with no drilling required. Then you can install hose barbs if you want to stay with vents, or just install pipe plugs if not.
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tjtryon   2.0 Crank & Head Venting Issues   Oct 17 2016, 03:56 PM
Vacca Rabite   Its an oil overflow system. Some people swear by ...   Oct 17 2016, 04:14 PM
tjtryon   Its an oil overflow system. Some people swear by...   Oct 17 2016, 04:23 PM
The Cabinetmaker   Your description is confusing. A pic is worth a th...   Oct 17 2016, 05:20 PM
falcor75   Wait.....your breather bottle is connected to the ...   Oct 17 2016, 11:17 PM
tjtryon   Wait.....your breather bottle is connected to the...   Oct 18 2016, 06:28 AM
HAM Inc   Plug the vents from the heads. You don't want ...   Oct 18 2016, 06:32 AM
falcor75   Plug the vents from the heads. You don't want...   Oct 18 2016, 10:59 PM
GregAmy   This is in my near future for the 2L race car. I...   Oct 18 2016, 07:11 AM
HAM Inc   Sounds like a leaky valve cover gasket. Warped val...   Oct 19 2016, 06:40 AM
tjtryon   OK, GregAmy and Ham say to plug the 45° ports at ...   Oct 19 2016, 02:46 PM
HAM Inc   OK, GregAmy and Ham say to plug the 45° ports at...   Oct 19 2016, 03:19 PM
GregAmy   OK, GregAmy and Ham say to plug the 45° ports at...   Oct 20 2016, 10:23 AM
barefoot   OK, GregAmy and Ham say to plug the 45° ports a...   Oct 20 2016, 10:56 AM
GregAmy   You say vent the heads to the breather can, but HA...   Oct 20 2016, 02:01 PM
HAM Inc   You say vent the heads to the breather can, but H...   Oct 20 2016, 02:11 PM
GregAmy   I'm not interested in rehashing this subject, ...   Oct 20 2016, 02:17 PM
HAM Inc   I'm not interested in rehashing this subject,...   Oct 20 2016, 02:27 PM
GregAmy   It's worth noting that VW/Porsche did away wit...   Oct 20 2016, 08:37 PM
stugray   I do not vent my heads. I use the stiock breather ...   Oct 20 2016, 12:03 PM
The Cabinetmaker   I asked for some pics. You ignored me. Still no pi...   Oct 20 2016, 01:47 PM
ThePaintedMan   :popcorn: http://hamheads.com/type4-test.php Th...   Oct 20 2016, 10:21 PM
GregAmy   http://hamheads.com/type4-test.php Thank you, th...   Oct 21 2016, 06:03 AM
HAM Inc   [url=http://hamheads.com/type4-test.php]http://h...   Oct 21 2016, 06:44 AM
Jake Raby   Lately I have had good luck with a balance tube be...   Oct 21 2016, 12:35 AM
Spoke   This thread is very timely for me. I just installe...   Oct 21 2016, 07:46 AM
HAM Inc   This thread is very timely for me. I just install...   Oct 21 2016, 02:55 PM
old914dog   Gents I have been running the "dog" out ...   Oct 21 2016, 04:58 PM
Elliot Cannon   When FAT Performance built my engine this is how t...   Oct 21 2016, 05:21 PM
SirAndy   I have what I believe is the CB breather box alrea...   Oct 21 2016, 05:35 PM
BK911   I used Andy's setup for years and always had a...   Oct 21 2016, 05:47 PM
HAM Inc   I've never been one to tell someone to stop do...   Oct 21 2016, 06:48 PM


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