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| skaufmann |
Jul 18 2012, 12:36 PM
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Blissfully Ignorant ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 103 Joined: 26-May 11 From: San Diego - College Area Member No.: 13,123 Region Association: Southern California |
I only have the original Valet key that turns the ignition. I have a 2nd key (Master) that opens the passenger door (and nothing else) and a 3rd key (Valet) that open the driver door (and nothing else).
From what I can gather, the only difference between the master key and the valet key is the channeling down the side of the key, not the notch/tooth profile. If I'm correct, can I make a copy of the original Valet key to a new Master key? My thought is it's easier to rekey the door locks and I suspect the new Master will then work the trunk and glove box since those were not likely replaced like the door locks were. |
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| doug_b_928 |
Feb 18 2017, 08:19 PM
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My car only came with a valet key. Reading on the classic thread, it seems the only difference is the valet key has an additional slot running the length of the key (that interacts with the 'valet wafer' so that it won't unlock locks that are so equipped). So, if I order a new master (black) blank and have a locksmith simply copy the profile of the valet key onto it, will the new master work in the locks for the glovebox and frunk (assuming, of course, that no one ever messed with them and that they're functional).
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| ChrisFoley |
Feb 20 2017, 02:05 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,016 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None
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My car only came with a valet key. Reading on the classic thread, it seems the only difference is the valet key has an additional slot running the length of the key (that interacts with the 'valet wafer' so that it won't unlock locks that are so equipped). So, if I order a new master (black) blank and have a locksmith simply copy the profile of the valet key onto it, will the new master work in the locks for the glovebox and frunk (assuming, of course, that no one ever messed with them and that they're functional). A good key shop will have suitable blanks (P05). They just won't have the black plastic handle. The difference between master and valet keys is the vertical alignment of upper and lower "wings" of the key. Master key wings are offset to opposite sides and valet key wings are inline. There's a slot in one wafer of the trunk and glove box locks. The slot aligns with the valet key wing, such that the wafer doesn't move when the key is inserted. The wafers are numbered 1 thru 4, easily visible with a small magnifier. The notches on the key can be measured to determine the correct number wafer which corresponds. Deeper notches are higher numbered. When I have new keys made my locksmith doesn't need an existing key, just the 10 wafer sequence and the correct key ID. He has a programmable key machine. |
skaufmann Can I make a Master Key from Valet Key? Jul 18 2012, 12:36 PM
r_towle You should be able to use the valet key to make a ... Jul 18 2012, 12:46 PM
skaufmann
You should be able to use the valet key to make a... Jul 18 2012, 12:51 PM
r_towle If I recall correctly, the glove box and front tru... Jul 18 2012, 01:02 PM
markb GPR sells originals & repros of the keys. Take... Jul 18 2012, 01:10 PM
skaufmann Awesome help guys!
Is there a source for wafe... Jul 18 2012, 02:39 PM
markb
Awesome help guys!
Is there a source for waf... Jul 18 2012, 02:48 PM
barefoot
Awesome help guys!
Is there a source for wa... Jun 27 2013, 08:02 AM
doug_b_928 Bump in the hopes that someone with a better under... Feb 19 2017, 08:09 PM
914 RZ-1 When I got my car I had 3 keys to various combinat... Feb 19 2017, 09:58 PM
doug_b_928 Good to know that might be an option. Feb 20 2017, 06:24 AM
slivel I recently had an extra key made for my 1975 914 a... Feb 20 2017, 11:15 AM
doug_b_928 Hmmm...so maybe I can try it out with a blank from... Feb 20 2017, 11:53 AM
The Cabinetmaker The cut is the same on both master and valet. Yes,... Feb 20 2017, 01:17 PM
doug_b_928 The nuance that was not obvious to me is whether t... Feb 20 2017, 01:26 PM
doug_b_928 Very nice explanation. Thank you! Feb 20 2017, 02:46 PM![]() ![]() |
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