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| averagejoe71 |
Apr 3 2017, 01:02 AM
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my 1.7 dies when it starts. Ill turn the key and it will shortly after stop and if i touch the pedal alittle within the small time frame it dies. Does anyone have any ideas of where to start checking to see whats the problem. All help is appreciated.
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| BeatNavy |
Jun 1 2017, 03:55 PM
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Likely more than one thing going on, which is not surprising. As far as I know, you still haven't tested the CHT and CHT wiring closely. That could also cause this issue. Or it could be complete fuel starvation, too.
Was the MPS diaphragm ruptured when you cracked open the housing? If it's a matter of getting the repaired MPS in spec I can help tune it. I also have a generally serviceable (I believe) 049 MPS which should work for testing purposes. PM me if want help. In the meantime, I'd recommend at least two checks: 1. Thoroughly checking CHT, the connection, and the wiring all the way to the ECU. 2. Checking to see if fuel injectors are actually getting fuel and firing - pull one out and put it in baby food jar (or something similar) and crank the engine. Is there fuel? I like my D-Jet, but I've replaced everything on it over the last couple of years in an attempt to get it working well. That includes fuel pump, ECU, MPS, wiring harness, CHT, T1, fuel pressure regulator, throttle body, TPS board, all hoses, etc. etc. Unless you're pretty well versed in modern FI systems, you're also going to have challenges. See the threads currently here on the board about Microsquirt conversions. It requires some knowledge, creativity, and patience to get that working on our cars. Hang in there. |
averagejoe71 1.7 dies right after starting Apr 3 2017, 01:02 AM
BeatNavy Fuel injection or carbs? If FI, first thing I wou... Apr 3 2017, 03:08 AM
averagejoe71
Fuel injection or carbs? If FI, first thing I wo... Apr 3 2017, 04:08 AM
Tbrown4x4 The CHT is near the #3 Intake port. I believe my ... Apr 3 2017, 04:44 AM
averagejoe71
The CHT is near the #3 Intake port. I believe my ... Apr 28 2017, 02:53 PM
mark04usa The MPS may not be the cause of the engine to die ... Apr 28 2017, 03:10 PM
averagejoe71
The MPS may not be the cause of the engine to die... Apr 28 2017, 03:26 PM
BeatNavy
[quote name='mark04usa' post='2480525' date='Apr ... Apr 28 2017, 04:01 PM
averagejoe71
[quote name='mark04usa' post='2480525' date='Apr... Apr 28 2017, 04:28 PM
BeatNavy Ok, now I'm clear. Then yes, get the Tangerin... Apr 28 2017, 04:49 PM
averagejoe71
Ok, now I'm clear. Then yes, get the Tangeri... Apr 28 2017, 05:03 PM
BeatNavy I should add now is a good time as well to think a... Apr 28 2017, 04:59 PM
averagejoe71
I should add now is a good time as well to think ... Apr 28 2017, 05:07 PM
BeatNavy
[quote name='BeatNavy' post='2480574' date='Apr 2... Apr 28 2017, 05:27 PM
averagejoe71
[quote name='BeatNavy' post='2480574' date='Apr ... May 8 2017, 05:42 PM
BeatNavy You can use your existing full load stop. That... May 8 2017, 06:51 PM
averagejoe71 Sorry for the late update but I only replaced the ... Jun 1 2017, 02:55 PM
averagejoe71
Likely more than one thing going on, which is not... Jun 1 2017, 04:54 PM
BeatNavy Resistance. You need to check the following as a ... Jun 1 2017, 05:24 PM
r_towle You may be getting enough fuel from the cold start... Jun 1 2017, 07:55 PM
averagejoe71 So good news. I found the problem. The red wire fo... Jun 7 2017, 12:43 PM
BeatNavy
So good news. I found the problem. The red wire f... Jun 7 2017, 03:59 PM

averagejoe71
So good news. I found the problem. The red wire ... Jun 7 2017, 04:49 PM
The Cabinetmaker
So good news. I found the problem. The red wire f... Jun 8 2017, 03:39 PM
BeatNavy
You are running full rich. I have not read this f... Jun 8 2017, 03:48 PM
averagejoe71
So good news. I found the problem. The red wire ... Jun 8 2017, 04:08 PM
euro911 Yes, Joe ... the port on the injector rail is wher... Jun 7 2017, 06:23 PM
averagejoe71
Awesome I'll connect it to a gauge then. Is t... Jun 7 2017, 11:19 PM
euro911 Awesome I'll connect it to a gauge then. Is th... Jun 8 2017, 10:47 AM
averagejoe71
Awesome I'll connect it to a gauge then. Is t... Jun 8 2017, 12:38 PM
BeatNavy That's your Auxiliary Air Valve (AAR) or somet... Jun 8 2017, 01:08 PM
averagejoe71
That's your Auxiliary Air Valve (AAR) or some... Jun 8 2017, 03:17 PM
euro911 30 PSI is good.
Pertronix units won't fail in... Jun 8 2017, 03:40 PM
averagejoe71
30 PSI is good.
Pertronix units won't fail i... Jun 8 2017, 04:10 PM
The Cabinetmaker Thanks Rob. His symptoms are indicative of a poorl... Jun 8 2017, 03:59 PM
averagejoe71
Thanks Rob. His symptoms are indicative of a poor... Jun 8 2017, 04:09 PM
Rand
He said he vacuum tested the MPS, but dang I st... Jun 8 2017, 04:31 PM
averagejoe71
He said he vacuum tested the MPS, but dang I s... Jun 8 2017, 05:01 PM
The Cabinetmaker The adjustment knob is located on the top, drivers... Jun 8 2017, 04:51 PM
averagejoe71
The adjustment knob is located on the top, driver... Jun 8 2017, 05:04 PM
Rand
From post #1 of this thread, I thought it was alw... Jun 8 2017, 05:05 PM
averagejoe71
From post #1 of this thread, I thought it was al... Jun 8 2017, 05:13 PM
The Cabinetmaker Unplug the mps BEFORE starting it! Jun 8 2017, 05:48 PM
Rand It's way rich!!
I guess to ask my que... Jun 8 2017, 05:51 PM
The Cabinetmaker Like beat navy said on page one, you need a wide b... Jun 8 2017, 07:23 PM
averagejoe71
Like beat navy said on page one, you need a wide ... Jun 12 2017, 04:37 PM
Rand Holy cow, if it runs that long with the MPS discon... Jun 12 2017, 05:00 PM
averagejoe71 I hit another wall. I messed when putting in the n... Jun 12 2017, 06:02 PM
914_teener
I hit another wall. I messed when putting in the ... Jun 12 2017, 10:39 PM
914_teener It just struck me looking at your picture is that ... Jun 12 2017, 10:46 PM
averagejoe71
It just struck me looking at your picture is that... Jun 12 2017, 11:14 PM
rhodyguy Post the # on the MPS? Jun 13 2017, 10:42 AM
Beach914 I've got a few. Depending on the number you ca... Jun 14 2017, 07:57 AM![]() ![]() |
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