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> T4 frustration, Got me thinking conversion
jeffdon
post Sep 28 2017, 08:38 AM
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I have been plagued by a series of issues over the last few years with getting my T4 running well. Some of it due to my screw ups, some just bad luck.

I keep thinking how nice it would be to have an engine that just starts and runs, and has more power. Subie maybe. But I sure like the couple of Honda V6 conversions I have seen.

Anyone here that has done a conversion and regretted it?
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post Sep 28 2017, 02:55 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) with Epstein. The pressure is off if you have one running. Converting to a Suby will run you 6K plus. There is great support for Suby conversions. It's been done several times and has supporting documentation here. Items such as the cradle, shifter, clutch pedal kits, etc. are available from suppliers. Ignore Elliot, he enjoys some form of solace driving around with 40 year old engine that costs as much to rebuild as a Lycoming. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) Here's a quick rundown of costs. Radiator, hose, fans and controller ~$650.00; 6 cylinder EZ30 range $800-$1200 + ~$150 shipping; TY-75 5 speed transmission ~ $600-$1100. Clutch, pressure plate, master & slave cylinder, shifter/cables and related hydraulic fittings ~$550-$750; Cradle & related appurtanances $300-$1000; fuel pump $100; ECU and required wiring $450, 1/2 shafts and CV's $300-$650, Starter ~$125; exhaust ~$650; suspension upgrade ~$450 if you stay 4 lug; stiffener kit for the longs ~$175 + 10-12 hr's to install; $1500 for AC and Heat; might as well have heated seats too ~$125; 75+ hours of cursing, ~300 hours of praying; 1-2 trips to the ER; 6 weeks min of mass confusion 90% of which is with the wiring, $450 dollars in Flowers to keep your wife from calling her lawyer. Should take 1-1.5 years if you can do your own work. Another 6 mo to chase down the Gremlins. So what does all of this get you? Reliability! And should you need parts they're available at your local FLAPS. No more traveling with a trunk full of spare parts. You'll be able to start the car w/o incantations or a bag of Snake Bones scattered about the floor. You'll have an OBD2 port for diagnostics. And as Ray mentioned; a big shit eating grin! It's not a trip down the Rabbit Hole as it once was. Many of us have done it successfully and are willing to help. There is even a Forum dedicated to water cooled 914 conversions. I've attempted to not Sugar Coat the process but now that you've been warned....................... the choice is yours. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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jeffdon   T4 frustration   Sep 28 2017, 08:38 AM
mepstein   There are lots of guys who start conversions and n...   Sep 28 2017, 08:43 AM
McMark   :agree: It's a slippery slope and it's ea...   Sep 28 2017, 08:53 AM
Elliot Cannon   I have NOT done a conversion and have NEVER regret...   Sep 28 2017, 08:54 AM
jeffdon   I have NOT done a conversion and have NEVER regre...   Sep 28 2017, 09:04 AM
tygaboy   :agree: with mepstein and McMark. And re: budget,...   Sep 28 2017, 08:55 AM
jeffdon   Yeah, I have started to calm down about it a bit. ...   Sep 28 2017, 08:59 AM
McMark   A) Don't waste your money on Biral or Aluminum...   Sep 28 2017, 09:13 AM
jeffdon   A) Don't waste your money on Biral or Aluminu...   Sep 28 2017, 09:16 AM
914_teener   Just send it to Mark and do the rest yourself....T...   Sep 28 2017, 09:24 AM
A&P Mech   Just send it to Mark and do the rest yourself.......   Sep 28 2017, 12:56 PM
Mikey914   Just send it to Mark and do the rest yourself.......   Sep 28 2017, 09:34 AM
rhodyguy   Blackline racing in Murray Utah for the webers. Us...   Sep 28 2017, 09:38 AM
jeffdon   Blackline racing in Murray Utah for the webers. U...   Sep 28 2017, 09:50 AM
JmuRiz   If I had to do it all over again, I'd have jus...   Sep 28 2017, 09:51 AM
jeffdon   If I had to do it all over again, I'd have ju...   Sep 28 2017, 10:17 AM
johnhora   jeffdon If you can't get a Type 4 working why...   Sep 28 2017, 10:43 AM
Costa05   I dont recall seeing an adapter plate from Kennedy...   Sep 28 2017, 12:40 PM
mepstein   One way to handle it is to buy a second car for th...   Sep 28 2017, 01:11 PM
rhodyguy   Fix the t-4. The dollars add up on a conversion. W...   Sep 28 2017, 02:02 PM
76-914   :agree: with Epstein. The pressure is off if you h...   Sep 28 2017, 02:55 PM
r_towle   Less money, send car to mark, get it running perfe...   Sep 28 2017, 02:58 PM
Mblizzard   I have done a lot of things for myself just for th...   Sep 28 2017, 05:03 PM


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