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post Oct 15 2017, 08:14 PM
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Well, it is not "if an issue will occur on a race track" but rather just a matter of when! Sunday morning was gorgeous at roughly 65 degrees and cloud cover. The grip was surprisingly good and the dense, cool-ish air enabled the engine to run really strong.

The night before, a few of us "walked the track", taking in the nuances that really can only be seen on foot, kneeling down and taking our time. More drivers should take advantage of this to become more familiar with details that are completely missed behind the wheel of a car. Anywho...

We were discussing an asphalt patch that is on entry into the downhill section to turn 10a...specifically, how the patch had an elevated center with ramps on either side. A friend mentioned, "hitting that at speed would cause quite the jolt to the car and driver". Also of concern was the potential loss of grip and the unsettling of the chassis at such a critical point. He was correct as I bore out witness the next morning.

We have still not found the smoking gun and only hope it is not internal; the top-end is fully functional with each of the valves operation correctly. The engine does not turn over quickly and that obviously is a cause of rather great concern. I have been doing track events for some time now, over 15-years, and have never encountered such a failure.

I guess I can say...enjoy the failure at my expense.

PS: Talk about cutting it close...lose an engine down the hill; try to jump start the engine at turn 10a and just BARELY make it up the hill over T11 to glide back to the hot pits. Whew - that was close! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Cheers!

Tony


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post Oct 17 2017, 08:30 AM
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The electrical narrative is boosted by the loss of power to "all things powered by the ecu" - that are visible from the onboard camera. The fuel pressure gauge is the white faced unit just to the left of the shift knob. I have fuel pressure indicated at about 10:30 (which is a correct and accurate indicator) and by the time I turn into 10a - it is at zero or 7:30. Conclusion: Either the ECU DIED at that moment or the ecu lost its lifeblood - power. I can only hope that there wasn't collateral damage caused by an abrupt engine cut...

PS: I thought I locked up the fronts again and you can see me glance in the rear view mirror - I was looking for a trail of smoke. Felt very similar to that prior experience but without the engine noise - it was kinda weird.

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Cracker   Engine Failure at speed...   Oct 15 2017, 08:14 PM
Mueller   Glad no incident with blown oil all over the place...   Oct 15 2017, 08:46 PM
wndsrfr   Geez I miss RA....mine's still in the $ho...   Oct 16 2017, 05:37 AM
tygaboy   Nooooo! Sorry to hear about this, Tony. Let us...   Oct 15 2017, 08:52 PM
Rand   I didn't hear any catastrophic noises and it w...   Oct 15 2017, 09:03 PM
Cracker   Time will tell but it is weird as hell that the mo...   Oct 15 2017, 09:16 PM
db9146   Wow Tony, that does seem odd. Sorry that happened...   Oct 15 2017, 09:04 PM
ConeDodger   Electrical? Went quiet quick and no mechanical n...   Oct 15 2017, 09:16 PM
jim_hoyland   Electrical? Went quiet quick and no mechanical ...   Oct 15 2017, 09:24 PM
Rand   Deja Vu, Rob. Hope it's good news.   Oct 15 2017, 09:23 PM
Larmo63   We not only are living vicariously through your ra...   Oct 15 2017, 09:39 PM
Krieger   Dang your car is fast! Well, you couldn't...   Oct 15 2017, 11:41 PM
Mikey914   Looked electrical, could't see all the gauges,...   Oct 16 2017, 12:21 AM
Cracker   Again, thanks for well wishes! :beer2: John:...   Oct 16 2017, 07:12 AM
campbellcj   Yikes! I hope the ultimate cause/fix turns ou...   Oct 16 2017, 07:24 AM
Cracker   Chris: Thanks. The dynamic I find interesting with...   Oct 16 2017, 09:13 AM
Mark Henry   I didn't hear any bad mechanical noise, here...   Oct 16 2017, 09:16 AM
burton73   Hi Tony, Thanks for the posting. As one of the gu...   Oct 16 2017, 09:49 AM
My 914   I would also like to venture that the lack of a me...   Oct 16 2017, 11:54 AM
Justinp71   Sorry to hear, hope its a quick fix. But man you h...   Oct 16 2017, 02:13 PM
DM_2000   Define cranks slow, does it constantly crank slow ...   Oct 16 2017, 02:56 PM
Cracker   Thanks for that thoughtful insight...just to clari...   Oct 16 2017, 08:08 PM
DM_2000   The engine didn't turn over nicely with or w...   Oct 17 2017, 05:47 PM
Rand   I would think the first thing to do is check for s...   Oct 16 2017, 02:58 PM
Perry Kiehl   That car is amazing. I hope it's nothing majo...   Oct 16 2017, 06:50 PM
Cracker   On a totally unrelated topic/video...I came across...   Oct 17 2017, 05:37 AM
jd74914   If your battery is 10.5V is your alternator chargi...   Oct 17 2017, 05:54 AM
Cracker   Hmm? Solid observation Sir...now that you say that...   Oct 17 2017, 06:09 AM
jd74914   Hmm? Solid observation Sir...now that you say tha...   Oct 17 2017, 07:45 AM
Cracker   The electrical narrative is boosted by the loss of...   Oct 17 2017, 08:30 AM
Chris914n6   I can only hope that there wasn't collateral ...   Oct 17 2017, 02:43 PM
Cracker   I have a process and technique to slow the car - i...   Oct 17 2017, 03:21 PM
gms   Tony, I hope it is just a simple electrical proble...   Oct 17 2017, 04:13 PM
Rand   If feels to me like people are talking basic 101 w...   Oct 17 2017, 05:52 PM
DM_2000   If feels to me like people are talking basic 101 ...   Oct 17 2017, 06:15 PM
Cracker   Its all good...keep it coming. We noticed voltage ...   Oct 17 2017, 06:21 PM
DM_2000   Its all good...keep it coming. We noticed voltage...   Oct 18 2017, 04:34 PM
Cracker   Busy work week! Normally the gauge reads right...   Oct 18 2017, 04:46 PM
ottox914   I've had a few similar electrical mystery prob...   Oct 17 2017, 09:23 PM
Cracker   Update Well...it doesn't look good. I checked ...   Oct 21 2017, 08:57 PM
DM_2000   Update One interesting observation: When the ecu ...   Oct 22 2017, 06:31 AM
tygaboy   Ugh - fingers crossed, my friend...   Oct 21 2017, 09:18 PM
wndsrfr   Ugh - fingers crossed, my friend... :agree: My...   Oct 22 2017, 07:28 AM
Cracker   No, the starter isn't hanging but I appreciate...   Oct 22 2017, 07:30 AM
Cracker   I don't have a hydro locked cylinder...startin...   Oct 22 2017, 06:45 AM
Cracker   Well, I have bad news (for me)...my original, trac...   Oct 22 2017, 02:59 PM
worn   Damn. The torpedos and the result. Way too shiny. ...   Oct 22 2017, 03:37 PM
DM_2000   Well, I have bad news (for me)...my original, tra...   Oct 22 2017, 05:06 PM
porschetub   Bearing material ?,looks like whitemetal and coppe...   Oct 22 2017, 03:50 PM
ConeDodger   Ouch... :blink:   Oct 22 2017, 03:55 PM
76-914   That's the :stromberg: 's alright. How ma...   Oct 22 2017, 04:24 PM
Cracker   Altbough I am assuming responsibilitiy for this fa...   Oct 22 2017, 04:24 PM
tygaboy   Ah crap, so sorry to see that, Tony... I'll ov...   Oct 22 2017, 04:48 PM
Cracker   Chris: Here is what I know now as I piece together...   Oct 22 2017, 05:48 PM
bulitt   Chris: Here is what I know now as I piece togethe...   Oct 27 2017, 06:06 AM
sixaddict   Today I told my son---Tony will be the " whil...   Oct 22 2017, 05:49 PM
DM_2000   I'd be sending an oil sample to a lab to see i...   Oct 22 2017, 06:06 PM
porschetub   You are kidding....right,like walking a horse to w...   Oct 22 2017, 07:13 PM
DM_2000   You are kidding....right,like walking a horse to ...   Oct 22 2017, 08:10 PM
Cracker   I believe this oil to be too contaminated to provi...   Oct 22 2017, 08:19 PM
ottox914   Bummer to have such damage, but kudos for seeing a...   Oct 22 2017, 08:02 PM
tygaboy   So you won't need the $20k? Cool, I have ...   Oct 22 2017, 09:36 PM
Racer Chris   It's possible to rebuild the bottom end in the...   Oct 23 2017, 11:06 AM
Cracker   Chris: I know that may be possible and I could pos...   Oct 27 2017, 06:27 AM
Racer Chris   Chris: I know that may be possible and I could po...   Oct 27 2017, 07:44 AM
jd74914   The engine has a full external dry sump system......   Oct 27 2017, 08:39 AM
76-914   That thang sounded pretty good before you went and...   Oct 27 2017, 05:51 PM
DM_2000   As for the in car crank change, too much metal goe...   Oct 27 2017, 06:41 PM
Cracker   Jim - I will detail plans to avert the possibility...   Oct 27 2017, 07:39 PM
76-914   Jim - I will detail plans to avert the possibilit...   Oct 27 2017, 08:49 PM
DM_2000   D2K - The engine will be completely disassembled...   Oct 28 2017, 07:44 AM
jd74914   I will detail plans to avert the possibility of t...   Oct 28 2017, 08:52 AM


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