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| HalfMoon |
Oct 31 2017, 08:46 PM
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A friend of mine who owns a race shop that does alot of Porsche work said when queried about reducing travel on the 914 brake system that the 23mm master cylinder from a 930 would far better reduce the travel over a 19mm master cylinder.
Has anyone done this mod and if so, what were the performance gains/differences? Thanks D |
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| DBCooper |
Nov 1 2017, 08:28 AM
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And, important to note, with just a larger m/c your brakes will NOT have any additional braking force, the car will stop exactly the same, brake fade will be exactly the same, the pedal will simply be harder to push.
I come from sport bikes. Have you seen them do stoppies, a wheelstand on the front wheel while braking? Requires a HUGE amount of control to keep it right on that edge, and the only way that's possible is with modulation, i.e. a long lever (or pedal), which is the exact opposite of what you get with a larger 23mm master on the same calipers. Nothing's free, so with a harder pedal and less modulation what you give up is control. You have the same amount of brake so you can still "go through the windshield" but it's more binary, on-off, and that's not usually desirable. For me, anyway. Tastes differ, as always. |
HalfMoon 23 mm Master cylinder? Oct 31 2017, 08:46 PM
Vacca Rabite
A friend of mine who owns a race shop that does a... Oct 31 2017, 09:32 PM
HalfMoon
A friend of mine who owns a race shop that does ... Oct 31 2017, 10:05 PM
porschetub
A friend of mine who owns a race shop that does a... Oct 31 2017, 10:19 PM
Mike Bellis I'm running a 23 but I also have 930 brakes. I... Oct 31 2017, 10:39 PM
HalfMoon
I'm running a 23 but I also have 930 brakes. ... Oct 31 2017, 10:56 PM
shoguneagle Agree with all the above. I am running 23mm M/C w... Oct 31 2017, 10:52 PM
HalfMoon
Agree with all the above. I am running 23mm M/C ... Oct 31 2017, 10:57 PM
HalfMoon To clarify-
I run a 19mm too (as well as a variet... Oct 31 2017, 10:55 PM
mepstein
To clarify-
I run a 19mm too (as well as a varie... Nov 1 2017, 05:30 AM
jd74914
To clarify-
I run a 19mm too (as well as a vari... Nov 1 2017, 05:49 AM

mepstein
[quote name='mepstein' post='2544209' date='Nov 1... Nov 1 2017, 05:58 AM
HalfMoon
To clarify-
I run a 19mm too (as well as a vari... Nov 1 2017, 10:02 AM
mepstein
[quote name='mepstein' post='2544209' date='Nov 1... Nov 1 2017, 11:36 AM
porschetub
[quote name='mepstein' post='2544209' date='Nov ... Nov 1 2017, 04:59 PM
infraredcalvin It’s not a 930 MC is a 23 mm ATE MC for a Merced... Oct 31 2017, 11:50 PM
infraredcalvin Sorry had to edit above... Oct 31 2017, 11:55 PM
flyer86d My old 911SC track car had turbo brakes front and ... Nov 1 2017, 05:30 AM
Racer Chris We just swapped out a 23mm M/C for a 22 mm VW unit... Nov 1 2017, 09:04 AM
HalfMoon
We just swapped out a 23mm M/C for a 22 mm VW uni... Nov 1 2017, 10:05 AM
mgp4591
We just swapped out a 23mm M/C for a 22 mm VW uni... Nov 1 2017, 11:05 AM
Racer Chris
Is that the M/C for the Corrado that you swapped ... Nov 1 2017, 11:07 AM
tomeric914 20.64mm or 22.22mm Master Cylinder Option How-To t... Nov 1 2017, 07:03 PM
HalfMoon
20.64mm or 22.22mm Master Cylinder Option How-To ... Nov 2 2017, 05:38 PM
Racer Chris
20.64mm or 22.22mm Master Cylinder Option How-To... Nov 2 2017, 07:08 PM
tomeric914 David,
This is basic hydraulics, but somehow, too... Nov 2 2017, 07:54 PM
HalfMoon
David,
This is basic hydraulics, but somehow, to... Nov 2 2017, 11:48 PM
Keyser Sose I currently run a 19mm and find that their's s... Nov 3 2017, 10:56 AM

Racer Chris
the bias valve can make it hard to get them full... Nov 3 2017, 03:03 PM

Keyser Sose
the bias valve can make it hard to get them ful... Nov 3 2017, 03:37 PM

Racer Chris
So do those valves ever go bad?
They don't ... Nov 4 2017, 09:06 AM
tomeric914 THIS IS AN EXAMPLE ONLY!!! You need t... Nov 3 2017, 03:04 PM
DBCooper OK, when I got my car the pedal was way too hard. ... Nov 1 2017, 10:34 AM
Dave_Darling When you change the diameter of the master cylinde... Nov 1 2017, 09:48 PM
tomeric914 ...on a bone stock brake system
When you change ... Nov 2 2017, 08:39 AM

Dave_Darling
...on a bone stock brake system
No, that's ... Nov 2 2017, 12:07 PM

tomeric914 The reason for going with a larger master cylinder... Nov 2 2017, 07:36 PM
SirAndy When you change the diameter of the master cylinde... Nov 2 2017, 11:19 AM
porschetub
When you change the diameter of the master cylind... Nov 2 2017, 06:59 PM
GeorgeRud Is the lack of a proportioning valve on the 911s b... Nov 4 2017, 09:19 AM![]() ![]() |
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