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Can there be a rust free 914? |
cal44 |
Feb 2 2018, 08:35 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 165 Joined: 8-October 09 From: Encinitas, Ca. Member No.: 10,910 Region Association: Southwest Region |
There are so many used parts available for 914's it dawned on me the cars rot around the parts.
The one we have in currently has been taken care of by the original owner and it still has hell hole issues. Always garaged in central California the guy washed and waxed on a regular basis. With rain tray in place, the sides (opposite ends of rain tray) are open, the water pours in over the battery. That aspect is a poor design at best. Don't get me wrong, I'm hooked the 914 but the poor things are like open windows in a house during a rain storm, the wood floors will suffer. At times I read rust free 914 for sale. Is it possible to have an "original rust free 914"? |
DRPHIL914 |
Feb 2 2018, 12:32 PM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,768 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
unless rotisserie restoration and all cavities opened up: NO
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marksteinhilber |
Feb 2 2018, 12:55 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 229 Joined: 18-October 12 From: Foothill Ranch, CA 92610 Member No.: 15,057 Region Association: Southern California |
unless rotisserie restoration and all cavities opened up: NO Disagree. You can do a full restoration and address all rust without a rotisserie. It's just harder. Unless a car was garaged from day 1 and not driven in snow and rain, then the rust might be minimal. but they still can rust from the inside out, especially due to battery acid and so forth. Every car needs a full inspection looking for signs of rusting from the inside out. Internal inspection of the longitudinals is probably the best check for the jack post and hell hole problem areas. |
DRPHIL914 |
Feb 2 2018, 01:02 PM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,768 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
unless rotisserie restoration and all cavities opened up: NO Disagree. You can do a full restoration and address all rust without a rotisserie. It's just harder. Unless a car was garaged from day 1 and not driven in snow and rain, then the rust might be minimal. but they still can rust from the inside out, especially due to battery acid and so forth. Every car needs a full inspection looking for signs of rusting from the inside out. Internal inspection of the longitudinals is probably the best check for the jack post and hell hole problem areas. you missed my point, I didn't mean the rotissierie was the only way to restore a car, my point was unless you open stuff up and clean it out and treat it , 99.99% of the time its not going to be a rust free 914, especially in the areas of the sail panel etc that have foam in them. every one I have had or looked into has had rust in those locations- |
mepstein |
Feb 2 2018, 01:14 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,313 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
unless rotisserie restoration and all cavities opened up: NO Disagree. You can do a full restoration and address all rust without a rotisserie. It's just harder. Unless a car was garaged from day 1 and not driven in snow and rain, then the rust might be minimal. but they still can rust from the inside out, especially due to battery acid and so forth. Every car needs a full inspection looking for signs of rusting from the inside out. Internal inspection of the longitudinals is probably the best check for the jack post and hell hole problem areas. you missed my point, I didn't mean the rotissierie was the only way to restore a car, my point was unless you open stuff up and clean it out and treat it , 99.99% of the time its not going to be a rust free 914, especially in the areas of the sail panel etc that have foam in them. every one I have had or looked into has had rust in those locations- Almost any time you remove a welded metal part or panel, there is rust between the seam. That's why a blasted or dipped car will still rust. If you dip it, it has to be neutralized and then e-coated. |
marksteinhilber |
Feb 2 2018, 01:33 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 229 Joined: 18-October 12 From: Foothill Ranch, CA 92610 Member No.: 15,057 Region Association: Southern California |
unless rotisserie restoration and all cavities opened up: NO Disagree. You can do a full restoration and address all rust without a rotisserie. It's just harder. Unless a car was garaged from day 1 and not driven in snow and rain, then the rust might be minimal. but they still can rust from the inside out, especially due to battery acid and so forth. Every car needs a full inspection looking for signs of rusting from the inside out. Internal inspection of the longitudinals is probably the best check for the jack post and hell hole problem areas. you missed my point, I didn't mean the rotissierie was the only way to restore a car, my point was unless you open stuff up and clean it out and treat it , 99.99% of the time its not going to be a rust free 914, especially in the areas of the sail panel etc that have foam in them. every one I have had or looked into has had rust in those locations- Almost any time you remove a welded metal part or panel, there is rust between the seam. That's why a blasted or dipped car will still rust. If you dip it, it has to be neutralized and then e-coated. Have to agree with neutralizing the acid and epoxy primer, or galvanizing, and any and all methods of sealing the steel so that moisture never gets to it. The foam the factory used seems to have been a bad idea. Seam sealer worked well in some places, but in others trapped water and caused rust. Use of seam sealer needs to be in a way of sealing seams, but not when it traps water into a pocket and dodry quickly. |
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