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| McMark |
Apr 12 2018, 11:42 AM
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914 Freak! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,180 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
I've been working on upgrading the components of my custom fuel injection setup. One of the upgrades I've had in the works for awhile was adapting the newest Bosch injectors. These have an improved spray pattern, are high-impedance, and are available in a variety of spray volumes. And they're TINY!
But like any of this stuff, you can't just bolt them on. I decided to make some fancy adapters that would look mostly original. This was one of my first projects to help teach myself Fusion360 CAD modeling. ![]() Got a couple 3D prints from some of our members, which illustrated a few issues with my design. A few changes were made and I pulled the trigger on an initial run of 20 pieces (5 engines). Just received these parts back from anodizing and did a final test fit. Everything looks perfect. So it's time to install this and my upgraded AAR on my 1.7 Turbo and see how these new additions help things. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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| McMark |
Apr 16 2018, 09:30 AM
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914 Freak! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,180 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Will the upgraded AAR be available as a group buy at some point? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Yup. As soon as I make sure it works. I'm also pondering some possibilities that would allow my AAR to be installed as a standalone part -- making it applicable to D-Jet and L-Jet cars.Looks good. Are those injectors reasonably priced? I buy mine from DeatshWerks at $260 for 4. But these injectors are on TONS of new cars. So the pick-n-pull available should be HUGE.also , are the connectors plug and play or is modification of the stock FI connector from the harness required? Adapter plugs could be made available pretty easily.I see this new bracket is not indexed to the tine on the manifold. What keeps the injector bracket from rotating around its bolt and moving from side to side? Nothing, I suppose. I'm not sure why they would be moving around. These will use the stock fuel rails as well, so that should provide some additional rigidity to guard against that concern. If I do another run I'll look into adding these tabs. I didn't add them initially because I was concerned about machining costs.Is there any reasonable way to have the electrical connector point the same way as the stock injectors? Nope. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) It does rotate freely, so you can put them left/right/down or anywhere in between.Nicely done, for your future runs, please add some big fillets between the "sheet metal" part and the cylindrical part, also at the nipple to larger diameter corner, since these are direct metal moulded parts I'd love to hear more about what you mean. These are CNC machined from aluminum, but you said "direct metal moulded parts" so I thought maybe you meant DLMS/3D-metal-printing. I understand that adding fillets would add strength, but it doesn't seem relevant to this part (no strength necessary). If you're seeing something I'm not, let me know.Very nice. My only concern is have you added another potential leak point in the system where the injector mates with the bracket? Sure. It's an additional potential leak point, but there's not much to be done about this. New injectors are ALL rail mount, so in order to upgrade I had to accept this fact. But it's a potential leak that present in every car that uses a rail-mount injector, which is pretty much every car produced in the last 10+ years. So I'm not doing anything unusual here. Those cars don't have leak problems, so as long as my parts are machined right they shouldn't have a lea problem either. |
| barefoot |
Apr 16 2018, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE Nicely done, for your future runs, please add some big fillets between the "sheet metal" part and the cylindrical part, also at the nipple to larger diameter corner, since these are direct metal moulded parts I'd love to hear more about what you mean. These are CNC machined from aluminum, but you said "direct metal moulded parts" so I thought maybe you meant DLMS/3D-metal-printing. I understand that adding fillets would add strength, but it doesn't seem relevant to this part (no strength necessary). If you're seeing something I'm not, let me know.Even though the fuel connection is with a rubber hose, there will be vibration induced to the hose attachment nipple. With a sharp corner where the nipple ends, thats a stress riser with may result in fatigue failure and a big pressurized fuel leak. We always use a large a fillet as possible in aircraft fuel system parts. I thought you were using direct metal moulding, but CNC machined parts can easily incorporate fillets. |
| McMark |
Apr 16 2018, 02:20 PM
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914 Freak! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,180 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
QUOTE Nicely done, for your future runs, please add some big fillets between the "sheet metal" part and the cylindrical part, also at the nipple to larger diameter corner, since these are direct metal moulded parts I'd love to hear more about what you mean. These are CNC machined from aluminum, but you said "direct metal moulded parts" so I thought maybe you meant DLMS/3D-metal-printing. I understand that adding fillets would add strength, but it doesn't seem relevant to this part (no strength necessary). If you're seeing something I'm not, let me know.Even though the fuel connection is with a rubber hose, there will be vibration induced to the hose attachment nipple. With a sharp corner where the nipple ends, thats a stress riser with may result in fatigue failure and a big pressurized fuel leak. We always use a large a fillet as possible in aircraft fuel system parts. I thought you were using direct metal moulding, but CNC machined parts can easily incorporate fillets. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) I can see where that would be helpful on the nipple. |
McMark Injector Upgrade Apr 12 2018, 11:42 AM
pete000 Nice work ! OEM Bosch injectors are getting ha... Apr 12 2018, 11:46 AM
saigon71 Looks great Mark!
Please continue to keep us ... Apr 12 2018, 12:16 PM
Philip W.
Looks great Mark!
Please continue to keep us... Apr 12 2018, 12:31 PM
Mueller Looks good. Are those injectors reasonably priced?... Apr 12 2018, 12:26 PM
rdauenhauer I like it! Apr 12 2018, 01:30 PM
Jeff Bowlsby Nice to have an option. I see this new bracket is... Apr 15 2018, 03:33 PM
rick 918-S Want Apr 15 2018, 03:38 PM
Dave_Darling Is there any reasonable way to have the electrical... Apr 15 2018, 09:37 PM
barefoot Nicely done, for your future runs, please add some... Apr 16 2018, 05:07 AM
brownaar Very nice. My only concern is have you added anoth... Apr 16 2018, 08:03 AM
Jeff Bowlsby Nothing, I suppose. I'm not sure why they wou... Apr 16 2018, 10:25 AM

McMark
Nothing, I suppose. I'm not sure why they wo... Apr 16 2018, 11:43 AM

Jeff Bowlsby The chart indicates a 300 kPA test pressure for al... Apr 16 2018, 12:18 PM
McMark I think I need to order some 90-degree elbows... Apr 16 2018, 12:04 PM
Dave_Darling
I think I need to order some 90-degree elbows...
... Apr 16 2018, 12:23 PM
McMark I think I need to order some 90-degree elbows...Or... Apr 16 2018, 02:19 PM
Dave_Darling The problem there is that the 1.7 an 2.0 runners h... Apr 16 2018, 07:20 PM
porsche913b_sp Nice :trophy: when are you taking orders :D Apr 19 2018, 06:41 PM
jcd914 Why not build a fuel rail with proper openings for... Apr 19 2018, 09:08 PM
rdauenhauer :idea: Apr 19 2018, 09:40 PM
John Jentz
:idea:
Will the engine go back in with those rai... Apr 24 2018, 08:04 AM
jcd914 Yes I was thinking of something like that.
But I ... Apr 19 2018, 09:48 PM
edwin Have you changed the lower orings on the injectors... Apr 23 2018, 08:17 AM
McMark Why not build a fuel rail with proper openings for... Apr 23 2018, 12:04 PM
Mikey914 I always remove my fuel rails (at least now), as i... Apr 24 2018, 09:19 AM
McMark :agree: Mike's got it. Pulling the injectors ... Apr 24 2018, 09:37 AM![]() ![]() |
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