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> Steering shaft boot/bushing and/or adjustment question, ...need some advice/direction
naro914
post May 6 2018, 12:51 PM
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For a long time, steering in Huey has been difficult - VERY hard to turn like something was always fighting you. I knew the boot that covers the shaft under the gas tank was never installed so I thought maybe the problem was that the tank was sitting on the shaft or bushings or something.

So today I took out the gas tank and sat looking at it. First....I have no clue how to put the boot on (do I have to drop the rack for that?) but I think the real problem is different. I undid the two allen bolts that hold the U bracket on and slid the rubber bushings out of the was to asses things. Immediately the shaft moved right up against the sides of the hole where it comes through the firewall and relieved the pressure it was under. (see picture) In other words, the shaft was NOT centered at all in that hole, so with the bushings trying to center the shaft, they were putting an immense amount of pressure on the shaft, thus making it hard to turn. (at least this is my theory). In fact, sometimes you can hear a squeaking/creaking type sound when turning the wheel, like metal moving tightly on rubber...

I thought "ok, adjust the U-joints to allow the shaft to be centered". no dice since you can't lengthen/shorten the shaft in the U Joints because of the notch they have where the tightening bolt goes through.

So....questions for the 914world brain trust:

1) how can I adjust things to get that shaft centered through the firewall hole?
2) how do I get the boot on?
3) where can I get new versions of all those bushings? there seems to be two (1 & 2 in my picture) and I guess a bearing (3)?

thoughts?
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iankarr
post May 10 2018, 09:34 PM
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The condition of that bearing may be related to why you couldn't pull the rack out without loosening everything. I wonder if anyone here can offer advice on how to measure the placement of the rack/aux support and determine if the prior front end damage knocked things out of whack.
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post May 11 2018, 05:13 AM
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QUOTE(cuddy_k @ May 10 2018, 11:34 PM) *

The condition of that bearing may be related to why you couldn't pull the rack out without loosening everything. I wonder if anyone here can offer advice on how to measure the placement of the rack/aux support and determine if the prior front end damage knocked things out of whack.

The problem with getting it out has nothing to do with the bearing or shaft, there’s just no way to get the actual rack past the aux support and master cylinder without taking it all apart. The shaft was separated from the UJoint fine, and the bearing/rubber bushing just slid down the shaft. Just couldn’t get the rack and tie rods (and bellows) past the master cylinder (mine is a big 21mm the pushes up against the cross member) and the brackets on the aux support. No other way of getting things past than dropping everything down. Even then, it was a really tight squeeze getting by the master cylinder.

But...its out. and with another person helping, I think we can pull everything away enough to squeeze it back in. Was hard to hold the support out of the way while trying to maneuver the rack past everything by myself.
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naro914   Steering shaft boot/bushing and/or adjustment question   May 6 2018, 12:51 PM
cuddy_k   2 and 3 are actually one piece...steering shaft be...   May 6 2018, 01:01 PM
naro914   2 and 3 are actually one piece...steering shaft b...   May 6 2018, 01:07 PM
cuddy_k   Hmm. Check the bolts holding the steering rack to ...   May 6 2018, 01:11 PM
jcd914   cuddy_k's question about front end damage is v...   May 6 2018, 03:18 PM
naro914   Thanks for the advice. So..yes the car has had dam...   May 6 2018, 07:19 PM
Mikey914   I do suspect the damage may have things slightly o...   May 6 2018, 09:53 PM
naro914   I do suspect the damage may have things slightly ...   May 7 2018, 06:39 AM
Mikey914   I do suspect the damage may have things slightly...   May 10 2018, 01:38 AM
cuddy_k   Glad to see that you're on your way to getting...   May 7 2018, 08:27 AM
naro914   Ok, I have no clue how to get the rack out without...   May 9 2018, 04:41 PM
wysri9   And I sure as hell am struggling to get mine in wi...   May 10 2018, 02:25 AM
cuddy_k   I know that, on my car, I could get the rack out (...   May 10 2018, 03:21 PM
naro914   I know that, on my car, I could get the rack out ...   May 10 2018, 03:58 PM
cuddy_k   I know that, on my car, I could get the rack out...   May 10 2018, 04:05 PM
naro914   [quote name='naro914' post='2608116' date='May 10...   May 10 2018, 04:30 PM
cuddy_k   I’m just saying that removing the aux carrier is...   May 10 2018, 04:46 PM
naro914   I’m just saying that removing the aux carrier i...   May 10 2018, 05:13 PM
naro914   Good thing I ordered a new bearing and bushing...t...   May 10 2018, 06:38 PM
cuddy_k   The condition of that bearing may be related to wh...   May 10 2018, 09:34 PM
naro914   The condition of that bearing may be related to w...   May 11 2018, 05:13 AM
Mikey914   Ran the tracking, they still say today. But I call...   May 10 2018, 09:58 PM
naro914   Ran the tracking, they still say today. But I cal...   May 11 2018, 05:04 AM
naro914   Ran the tracking, they still say today. But I ca...   May 11 2018, 01:10 PM
Mikey914   [quote name='naro914' post='2608281' date='May 11...   May 13 2018, 10:39 AM
naro914   [quote name='naro914' post='2608281' date='May 1...   May 13 2018, 11:30 AM
Mikey914   Thanks Bob I'm glad to hear that that worked o...   May 13 2018, 12:31 PM
trojanhorsepower   I don't want to steer this thread off topic, b...   Nov 20 2018, 08:12 PM
naro914   I don't want to steer this thread off topic, ...   Nov 20 2018, 09:22 PM
trojanhorsepower   Bummer.   Nov 20 2018, 09:26 PM
naro914   Regardless...since this car was so put together wi...   Nov 20 2018, 09:36 PM
Mikey914   Bob, I got to looking closely at your 1st picture ...   Nov 21 2018, 01:14 AM
naro914   Bob, I got to looking closely at your 1st picture...   Nov 21 2018, 07:12 AM
Mikey914   Great, I was actually scared to see that when I re...   Nov 21 2018, 11:06 AM


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