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> Let's play a game called I have a good 1.7 L bottom end
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post May 30 2018, 11:33 AM
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Keep it clean gentlemen - grin.

So I find myself with a perfectly good 1.7 L bottom end, give me a radio is on what to do with it to get more power out of it as cheaply as possible but ending up with a reliable and street where the motor.

Take me to school here please, thanks!

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post May 30 2018, 05:45 PM
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What is more important here, cheapest price or overall power increase? And what is your definition of cheap?

...because a 2257 would be a nice kick in the pants. If you are going to spend the time an money to swap pistons and most likely the cam anyways, why not go all the way?

https://aapistons.com/collections/engine-re...kits/type-4-914


https://aapistons.com/collections/cylinder-...eads-44x36-pair
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QUOTE(JamesM @ May 30 2018, 06:45 PM) *

What is more important here, cheapest price or overall power increase? And what is your definition of cheap?

...because a 2257 would be a nice kick in the pants. If you are going to spend the time an money to swap pistons and most likely the cam anyways, why not go all the way?

https://aapistons.com/collections/engine-re...kits/type-4-914


https://aapistons.com/collections/cylinder-...eads-44x36-pair


If I go this route it's going to be heavily budget driven, and I was also thinking it would be easier for me to tackle if I don't have to split the case. Putting a camera and would require me to split the case, right?


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post May 31 2018, 01:07 AM
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QUOTE(Tdskip @ May 30 2018, 03:47 PM) *

If I go this route it's going to be heavily budget driven, and I was also thinking it would be easier for me to tackle if I don't have to split the case. Putting a camera and would require me to split the case, right?


If you dont split the case pretty much the only thing you can do will be 96mm pistons and head work but I dont know if I would bother doing either one on a stock cam as you really need the right cam to make the most of it. If the heads are 1.7 machine work will be necessary to fit the 96mm cylinders so you are probably looking at $500-1000 just to get a 1911 on worn bearings with a stock cam, sure you could do it but any gains would be minimal so you would have to decide if it is worth it to you.

If it were me, I dont know if I would bother changing anything without also changing the cam but if you split the case to do the cam might as well have some fun.

We probably should have asked what you are using for fueling as that will make a difference in what you can do cheaply with the motor itself.

My thoughts, in order of cheapness:

1. Hot cam + headwork + lightened flywheel. (keep it a 1.7 but wake it up a bit)
2. above +96mm P&C (Hot 1911, add about $300 over #1 )
3. above + everything needed to 78mm stroke (AA 2257 kit, add 1500-2k)


The thing is if you go with #1 or #2 dont ever drive/ride in anyones car with a 2257 or 2270 as you ill regret having spent the money and not having just gone with #3.

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Tdskip   Let's play a game called I have a good 1.7 L bottom end   May 30 2018, 11:33 AM
914werke   1911   May 30 2018, 11:37 AM
marksteinhilber   1911 Concur, it uses existing crank and rods. S...   May 30 2018, 11:53 AM
Tdskip   Since that was not a very good year, I'm assum...   May 30 2018, 12:14 PM
Tdskip   Thank you for that referral, pick up the phone an...   May 30 2018, 12:39 PM
r_towle   turbo, ask McMark. rich   May 30 2018, 04:23 PM
JamesM   What is more important here, cheapest price or ove...   May 30 2018, 05:45 PM
Tdskip   What is more important here, cheapest price or ov...   May 30 2018, 05:47 PM
JamesM   If I go this route it's going to be heavily b...   May 31 2018, 01:07 AM
Valy   You want to split the case to replace the cam and ...   May 30 2018, 08:26 PM
Tdskip   You want to split the case to replace the cam and...   May 30 2018, 08:32 PM
marksteinhilber   You want to split the case to replace the cam an...   May 30 2018, 08:59 PM
Tdskip   EMW also sells cranks or get a good 2.0 L crank t...   May 30 2018, 09:16 PM
marksteinhilber   EMW also sells cranks or get a good 2.0 L crank ...   May 30 2018, 11:27 PM
falcor75   No matter which way you go I'd split the case ...   May 31 2018, 01:40 AM
Racer Chris   Ok, I'll play. Assuming you really have a goo...   May 31 2018, 07:27 AM
majkos1   :agree: Better exhaust system. My old 1.7 woke s...   May 31 2018, 07:53 AM
Tdskip   Thanks all, good tip Chris. I'll factor that i...   May 31 2018, 08:04 AM
Vacca Rabite   Is this for the turbo car? If so, keep the displa...   May 31 2018, 09:15 AM
Tdskip   Is this for the turbo car? If so, keep the displ...   May 31 2018, 12:23 PM
Mblizzard   Will certainly have to second what Chris said...   May 31 2018, 09:25 AM
914werke   1st it was asked what your goal criteria is, expen...   May 31 2018, 09:59 AM
mepstein   Use the 1.7 as a coffee table and drop in a 3.2 :...   May 31 2018, 10:07 AM
Tdskip   Use the 1.7 as a coffee table and drop in a 3.2 ...   May 31 2018, 12:29 PM
marksteinhilber   Use the 1.7 as a coffee table and drop in a 3.2 ...   May 31 2018, 12:51 PM
Tdskip   [quote name='Tdskip' post='2614440' date='May 31 ...   May 31 2018, 12:54 PM
old914dog   Tangerine exhaust is $$ and worth every ...   May 31 2018, 11:39 AM
porschetub   Tangerine exhaust is $$ and worth every...   May 31 2018, 11:52 PM


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