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> 1975 914 brake light/turn signal question....with video!, Update: Video added...see latest post
billh1963
post Aug 27 2018, 06:21 PM
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Started working on getting Mark's "BB" ready for Okteenerfest and have started sorting a wiring issue. The turn signals weren't working and after replacing the turn signal relay and turn signal switch to no avail I figured it had to be the flasher switch itself. After replacing the switch (thank you Dominic), I know have hazard lights and turn signals. However, I now have the following questions:

1. I have a burned out right turn signal bulb. Will that cause the yellow turn signal indicator light on the tachometer to stay illuminated? (see picture) I don't have a spare at the moment to see if changing it solves the issue. Current;y, it stays on

2. I don't have an owner's manual. What is the other light on the right side of the tachometer (not illuminated)? It does not illuminate

3. I replaced the turn signal relay with the Wehr brand relay. However, I am still getting the buzzing and fast blinking on the brake light that has been attributed to the relay. I have read that the emergency brake handle and/or needing to reset the MC pressure switch will cause the light to illuminate. In my case, the e-brake handle is down so I will try resetting the MC switch tomorrow. Anything else I should take into account that may cause this condition?

Thank you

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post Aug 29 2018, 08:58 AM
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Great drawing! I think you are right, however, help me think this through...

First answer....pushing in or releasing the ebrake switch has no effect

I replaced the four way (hazard) switch because it had literally fallen apart. Once I did that, the hazard lights work correctly.

Since the turn signals work as well (appropriate lights work with the switch), I'll assume the following:

1. Fuses 9 and 11 are good and the red wire from the 4 way switch to the flasher relay is good and not shorted

2. The wires from the 4 way flasher to the turn signal switch are good (BK/GR/WH, BK/GR, and BK/WH) and connected correctly

3. Connections to the turn signal bulbs are correct (LR, LF, RR and RF)

4. The master cylinder warning indicator and emergency brake indicator are two separate lights or is there only one? I'm assuming only one and that is activated by the master cylinder warning switch and/or the emergency brake handle switch closing

So, looking at the drawing I see that I must have constant voltage being applied to the L-R turn signal indicator and the emergency brake/master cylinder warning indicator for both to be on simultaneously.

I just replaced the flasher relay...could it be bad?

If not, then, as you said, either the ebrake switch or master cylinder switch is closed (or their wire is shorted).

Thank you for the drawing. I'll check those possibilities next!
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billh1963   1975 914 brake light/turn signal question....with video!   Aug 27 2018, 06:21 PM
tmc914   For question #2 it looks like the high beam indica...   Aug 27 2018, 06:37 PM
billh1963   For question #2 it looks like the high beam indic...   Aug 27 2018, 06:46 PM
914Sixer   Yes dash light is a reminder to check bulbs. Othe...   Aug 27 2018, 06:41 PM
billh1963   Yes dash light is a reminder to check bulbs. Oth...   Aug 27 2018, 06:48 PM
DRPHIL914   Yes dash light is a reminder to check bulbs. Ot...   Aug 28 2018, 06:47 AM
Rob-O   Yes dash light is a reminder to check bulbs. Ot...   Aug 28 2018, 05:14 AM
Rob-O   Like this. You can use some of the other colors t...   Aug 28 2018, 05:21 AM
Spoke   1. I have a burned out right turn signal bulb. W...   Aug 28 2018, 09:16 AM
billh1963   Cleaned the oxidation off the turn signal bulb and...   Aug 28 2018, 06:52 PM
billh1963   Anyone else experience this?   Aug 29 2018, 04:36 AM
Spoke   It looks like the brake warning light is on consta...   Aug 29 2018, 07:27 AM
theer   Turning on the parking lights (light switch pulle...   Aug 29 2018, 08:41 AM
billh1963   Turning on the parking lights (light switch pull...   Aug 29 2018, 09:01 AM
billh1963   Great drawing! I think you are right, however,...   Aug 29 2018, 08:58 AM
Spoke   Great drawing! I think you are right, however...   Aug 29 2018, 09:21 AM
billh1963   There may be only one brake warning light. The i...   Aug 29 2018, 05:49 PM
DRPHIL914   hope you can get this sorted, is it the last issue...   Aug 29 2018, 09:26 AM
billh1963   hope you can get this sorted, is it the last issu...   Aug 29 2018, 12:58 PM
Spoke   The ebrake wire runs under the front seat and coul...   Aug 29 2018, 06:24 PM
billh1963   The ebrake wire runs under the front seat and cou...   Aug 29 2018, 06:42 PM
Spoke   You should be able to get to the switch w/o removi...   Aug 30 2018, 06:12 AM
billh1963   You should be able to get to the switch w/o remov...   Aug 30 2018, 08:24 AM
tmc914   I am watching this thread with great interest beca...   Aug 30 2018, 08:49 AM
billh1963   I am watching this thread with great interest bec...   Aug 30 2018, 10:56 AM
billh1963   Update: Replaced the e-brake switch and no joy. I ...   Sep 3 2018, 05:59 PM
DRPHIL914   Update: Replaced the e-brake switch and no joy. I...   Sep 4 2018, 08:48 AM
billh1963   Update: Replaced the e-brake switch and no joy. ...   Sep 4 2018, 08:59 AM


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