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80cap
post Jan 7 2019, 08:32 AM
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Anyone have a trick on how to keep the gaskets in place while trying to bolt up the headers? I have tried exhaust sealant with out much luck.
Thanks Brian
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post Jan 7 2019, 05:50 PM
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Cherry red, let cool slowly, don't dunk in water.
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post Jan 7 2019, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(yeahmag @ Jan 7 2019, 06:50 PM) *

Cherry red, let cool slowly, don't dunk in water.

I was pretty sure you DID dunk copper in water to complete the annealing process. At least that's what I've read (and done). When properly annealed, dropping the gaskets on the ground will give a dull "clunk" sound rather than a ringing sound.
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post Jan 7 2019, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(BeatNavy @ Jan 7 2019, 05:11 PM) *

QUOTE(yeahmag @ Jan 7 2019, 06:50 PM) *

Cherry red, let cool slowly, don't dunk in water.

I was pretty sure you DID dunk copper in water to complete the annealing process. At least that's what I've read (and done). When properly annealed, dropping the gaskets on the ground will give a dull "clunk" sound rather than a ringing sound.

No! Quenching hot metal in cold water hardens it. Do NOT do that if you want to anneal copper to conform as it gets bolted up. (While copper, silver, and brass CAN be quenched during annealing, it's not needed, so better just use quenching for hardening and keep it simple.)

The whole point of annealing is to make it as soft and pliable as possible. Let it cool slowly.
Otherwise you'd be better off to just bolt it up without any treatment, as hardening it is only complicating it. If you aren't sure, just bolt it up and retorque after a heat cycle. It's really not necessary to treat them.

A bigger problem is when people don't realize there's still an old one stuck up in there and you need to use a pick/hook tool to get it out.
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80cap   header install   Jan 7 2019, 08:32 AM
ChrisFoley   A couple dabs of grease ought to do the trick   Jan 7 2019, 08:40 AM
rfinegan   I use a drop of crazy glue to hold it up while I b...   Jan 7 2019, 09:20 AM
mepstein   I use a drop of crazy glue to hold it up while I ...   Jan 7 2019, 09:38 AM
80cap   Thanks Ill try the super glue trick. Brian   Jan 7 2019, 11:01 AM
yeahmag   I alway anneal them too before putting them on.   Jan 7 2019, 01:15 PM
80cap   I did anneal them and used super glue! The su...   Jan 7 2019, 05:15 PM
pilothyer   Speaking of the anneal step, what is the proper an...   Jan 7 2019, 05:47 PM
yeahmag   Cherry red, let cool slowly, don't dunk in wat...   Jan 7 2019, 05:50 PM
pilothyer   Cherry red, let cool slowly, don't dunk in wa...   Jan 7 2019, 06:10 PM
BeatNavy   Cherry red, let cool slowly, don't dunk in wa...   Jan 7 2019, 07:11 PM
Rand   Cherry red, let cool slowly, don't dunk in w...   Jan 7 2019, 08:01 PM
worn   No! Quenching hot metal in cold water hardens...   Jan 8 2019, 12:52 PM
Rand   I'm in the grease camp. One tiny dab will inst...   Jan 7 2019, 06:47 PM
rgalla9146   Grease. Is there any mention of anealing in ...   Jan 7 2019, 08:08 PM
Rand   Yup, grease is just a straight up trick that comes...   Jan 7 2019, 08:43 PM
rjames   Yup, grease is just a straight up trick that come...   Jan 7 2019, 11:24 PM
Front yard mechanic   High tack adhesive :hugme:   Jan 8 2019, 07:26 AM
Mark Henry   Annealing is only necessary for reusing used gaske...   Jan 8 2019, 09:26 AM
914_teener   Ok. To the OP. I've used high temp copper sl...   Jan 8 2019, 02:30 PM


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