Rust cover up?, Car looks good, but how can I tell if rust is just covered Options

[Jon199]

I am considering purchasing this project 914. I am concerned that rust may have been covered up by a rhino lining or similar spray application at the hell hole. Does anyone have any knowledge of the car or any advice as to what exactly what I should be looking for when I go inspect the car in person?
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[Jon199]

Thank you everyone for your opinions and advice. My first Porsche was a 993. I loved the car, but did not like how the ass end would get light if you let off the gas in a corner. I would like to get a mid engine Porsche this time around. I like the idea of a light 914, but I want to have enough power to give that pushed back into the seat feeling. Also, I want something I can drive to the track for drivers education a few times a year. So I should probably be looking for a cayman. Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Jon

[Superhawk996]

Thank you everyone for your opinions and advice. My first Porsche was a 993. I loved the car, but did not like how the ass end would get light if you let off the gas in a corner. I would like to get a mid engine Porsche this time around. I like the idea of a light 914, but I want to have enough power to give that pushed back into the seat feeling. Also, I want something I can drive to the track for drivers education a few times a year. So I should probably be looking for a cayman. Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Jon

Jon, there is a fine line between a car that is neutral in a corner and one that gets light tending toward classic oversteer (i.e. 911's). Frankly that line is based on personal opinion and driving style.

The secret is don't lift in the corner. If you have your speed set at corner entry, you really want to be easing back into the throttle during the corner rather than lifting which is panic reaction to having gone in too fast. This transfers weight to the rear axle and helps stabilize that rear end.

However, you are on the right track. Do as much driver education and track time as you can afford and find time for. You won't regret it. A Cayman is a fine car but being that it is a Porsche you'll find that it too will be neutral to oversteering on an abrupt lift throttle. You can't go wrong with a Cayman but don't expect it to be forgiving of an abrupt lift during a corner either.

If you're not already aware, the main issue with 914 handling (and a mid-engine Cayman) is that once you start to lose it, the car can rotate pretty fast due to low polar moment of inertia that is why we love mid-engine handling in the first place.

Good luck in your quest.

[VaccaRabite]

Thank you everyone for your opinions and advice. My first Porsche was a 993. I loved the car, but did not like how the ass end would get light if you let off the gas in a corner. I would like to get a mid engine Porsche this time around. I like the idea of a light 914, but I want to have enough power to give that pushed back into the seat feeling.

If you're not already aware, the main issue with 914 handling (and a mid-engine Cayman) is that once you start to lose it, the car can rotate pretty fast due to low polar moment of inertia that is why we love mid-engine handling in the first place.

Couple points here.

My 914 (which is a mild 2056 making about 150 at the crank on the dyno) will push you into your seat WOT in 2nd and 3rd. A 914 tends to be a quick car, but not a fast car. My stock WRX is faster and feels faster in nearly every regard. In stock or near stock forms, they will never match a modern Porsche in terms of speed. They will struggle with some mini-vans in a drag race. They are 40+ year old cars, and even when new they were not speed demons. They were always cornering cars, and to this day they can out corner almost anything on the road.

I've been in a stock 2L spinning, and it happens very very fast with little time to correct. I've also been in a stock 2L where I looked at the other guy after a corner where the car held the line even when we were both puckering. The best way to deal with it is just seat time, learning how your car reacts and teaching yourself NOT to panic stop mid corner, but rather to slow down before the corner and throttle through it.

Zach