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post Feb 18 2019, 11:12 AM
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My car has 205/50/15's on it which make it squirt out of a turn from low speeds. OTOH, the ride isn't the finest but I can live with it because I have cars that ride nice.
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I've come down with some choices mostly based on dry grip and not so much about ride quality. Sizes are limited.

Dunlop Direzza in 205/55/15 to add some height (although a 50 series is fun!)

G-FORCE SPORT COMP-2 - SIZE: 195/55R15 because that's all they make

Pirelli P6000 185/70/15

Avon in either 175/70/15 or 185/70/15

I'm familiar with the Avon from friends who run them on early 911's. There's a guy who uses them on 4.5 Fuchs in the 175 size and they say he's not easy to get away from on a back road.

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post Feb 18 2019, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(sithot @ Feb 18 2019, 09:12 AM) *

My car has 205/50/15's on it which make it squirt out of a turn from low speeds. OTOH, the ride isn't the finest but I can live with it because I have cars that ride nice.
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I've come down with some choices mostly based on dry grip and not so much about ride quality. Sizes are limited.

Dunlop Direzza in 205/55/15 to add some height (although a 50 series is fun!)

G-FORCE SPORT COMP-2 - SIZE: 195/55R15 because that's all they make

Pirelli P6000 185/70/15

Avon in either 175/70/15 or 185/70/15

I'm familiar with the Avon from friends who run them on early 911's. There's a guy who uses them on 4.5 Fuchs in the 175 size and they say he's not easy to get away from on a back road.

Opinions welcome.


From this thread:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...39516&st=20


I'll leave the 14s and the CW tires to Coker Tire (where you can also buy Model T tires) and stick to what appealed to me as period-correct (or at least not "period WRONG") and still sporting options for a narrow 914 after a ton of personal research, phone calls, internet surfing, etc.

Coker Tire/Michelin XWX 185/70R15 (the hot tire of the day, standard equipment on the 911S and the +0 upgrade for 914s)
Notes: Can't get my head around $348 each for a tire this small, with such dated technology. Too concours/show & tell-oriented for me, and way too expensive to boot.
Find them here: https://www.cokertire.com/tires/michelin-xwx.html

Vredestein Sprint Classic 185/70R15 (the reasonably priced tire if you want period looks and decent performance)
Notes: Period tread pattern and sidewalls, probably better than the Coker Michelin XWX and a LOT less expensive at $140 each; nice steering response, nice ride, not so great in terms of ultimate grip. Bought a set 8-10 years ago. Just weren't for me, but a lot of people like them.
Find them here: http://www.vulcantire.com/cgi-bin/tiresear...t_classic_t.cst

Avon CR6ZZ 185/70R15 (just bought a set, will mount them shortly...)
Notes: We'll see about ride and handling, but everyone raves about them; definitely have the period look, with tall, plain sidewalls. Available in three compounds, with 29 being the hardest and 31 being the softest (you want 29s for the street). Narrower than I wanted, but I am told even the hardest version has a LOT more grip than any street-spec 195 or 205. Roger Kraus Racing carries them for $280/tire. Not cheap—unless you compare them to Coker XWXs. They do seem like good value against a modern N-spec Porsche tire, given their specialty nature—though they won't last as long. You can also get CR6ZZs in 215/60R15.
Find them here: http://rogerkrausracing.com/pages/pricing.html

Dunlop SP Sport 195/65R15 (a good middle of the road, affordable tire with reasonable grip by modern standards and a sidewall and tread pattern that don't look completely alien on a 1970s car)
Notes: Sidewall too modern for me, but better than most. A favored tire of Rod and Gary Emory for street-oriented 356 hot rods where Hoosiers won't work. Grip okay, ride okay, but distinctly not sporting—even if they are probably superior to the best tires of the 1970s. Bought a set, but am taking them off after 1,000~ miles. Just not for me. But: $65~ each is a bargain for what you get.
Find them here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?gc...0160211172230:s

Michelin Pilot Sport All-Season 3 205/55R16 (what a great street tire!)
Notes: I almost moved on to 16-inch wheels just to mount a set of these. I put a set of them on our 2013 Abarth at $129~/tire and it may be my new favorite street tire. It's AVS Intermediate good, and maybe better. Crazy grip (better than many summer tires, apparently), very quiet, and carries a tread wear rating of 500. I'm not expecting that long a life given the grip, but will be fun finding out if it's hogwash. If the Avons don't work out, this may be my next plan.
Find them here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?ti...romCompare1=yes

Michelin TB & TB15 (perfection, at a price)
If I was running a GT-flared 914 on 15-inch wheels, and perhaps one day I might be, the choice would be a lot simpler. I'd run Michelin TB15 tires (vintage race/tarmac rally tire) on 15x7&9-inch Fuchs. They have wonderful grip, REALLY nice steering response, and killer good looks. Jeff Zwart is running them on his yellow 914-6, and I was blown away by them. The fronts are 215/55R15, the rears are racing sizes but not all that hard to figure out for the back of a 914 (the same size as the front of a RSR 2.8).
Find them here: http://www.summitracing.com/search/product...elin-tb15-tires

Hope this is helpful for someone else!


Will say, with hindsight, I would have done the soft-compound CR6ZZ over the hardest. They wear better than expected, and I wouldn't mind something softer.

I'd also take a hard look at the P6000 N2 in 195/65R15 (might be a better street tire, and the 195's bulge looks great on a 5.5- or 6.0-inch wheel), the Yoko A-048 in 205/60R15 (may rub a bit, depending on your 914's rear fenders), and the Direzza in 205/55R15 (ran 205/55s for years, and liked them, but have wanted a taller sidewall lately). It's really too bad the Michelin AS/3 isn't available in 195/65R15...would be the perfect 914 tire. Simple sidewall, timeless tread, great handling in any weather, etc.
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sithot   Tires   Feb 18 2019, 11:12 AM
TheWeatherMan   I use: 195/55R-15 Dunlop Direzza ZII very sticky   Feb 18 2019, 11:16 AM
thelogo   Cooper touring cs4 , great tire , real solid sidew...   Feb 18 2019, 02:08 PM
mountainroads   Stay away from extremely expensive pirellis OP ...   Feb 18 2019, 03:19 PM
thelogo   [quote name='thelogo' post='2690186...   Feb 18 2019, 09:19 PM
sithot   "Dry" handling numbers in the 8's ar...   Feb 19 2019, 07:06 AM
mountainroads   Yokohama ADVAN A048 - 9.1 (205/60 or 205/50) Pric...   Feb 21 2019, 12:03 PM
Mark Henry   [quote name='sithot' post='2690436' date='Feb 19 ...   Feb 22 2019, 07:58 AM
mepstein   [quote name='sithot' post='2690436' date='Feb 19 ...   Feb 22 2019, 08:10 AM
mountainroads   [quote name='sithot' post='2690436' date='Feb 19...   Feb 22 2019, 11:44 AM
RolinkHaus   Toyo PROXES R1R 195/50/15 <------- pictured he...   Feb 18 2019, 03:05 PM
Mark Henry   The new car I picked up has Yokohama S-drive, 205/...   Feb 18 2019, 07:11 PM
Cal   Here's an interesting article that compares se...   Feb 18 2019, 08:03 PM
horizontally-opposed   My car has 205/50/15's on it which make it sq...   Feb 18 2019, 08:42 PM
Cairo94507   I just had a set of Yokohama 205/55R-15's ship...   Feb 19 2019, 07:54 AM
sithot   I just had a set of Yokohama 205/55R-15's shi...   Feb 19 2019, 08:03 AM
Cairo94507   Exactly why Harvey is mounting and balancing them....   Feb 19 2019, 10:12 AM
marksteinhilber   Falken Azenis 205x 50x15 sticky summer street leg...   Feb 19 2019, 12:21 PM
Dougal Cawley   Have you guys tried the new Pirelli tyres that hav...   Feb 20 2019, 10:34 AM
horizontally-opposed   Only thing to think about when picking tires per g...   Feb 20 2019, 12:38 PM
Racer   My car has 205/50/15's on it which make it sq...   Feb 20 2019, 01:01 PM
Amphicar770   I have the Pilot's on my car in 195/65-15. Th...   Feb 20 2019, 02:02 PM
Dougal Cawley   195/55R15 is completely the wrong diameter 80% of...   Feb 21 2019, 04:49 AM
sithot   Anyone who has auto-x'd one of these would hea...   Feb 21 2019, 06:47 AM
mountainroads   >> Also have a '74 911 with Goodyear E...   Feb 21 2019, 11:41 AM
Mark Henry   195/55R15 is completely the wrong diameter 80% o...   Feb 21 2019, 07:15 AM
horizontally-opposed   195/55R15 is completely the wrong diameter 80% o...   Feb 21 2019, 12:25 PM
Racer   Sithot - sounds like you know what you want.. 205...   Feb 21 2019, 07:20 AM
Dougal Cawley   for straight line point and squirt cars. yes wider...   Feb 22 2019, 03:56 AM
sithot   For the sake of transparency, Doug sells tires for...   Feb 22 2019, 07:22 AM
Cairo94507   So I went with Yokohama 205/55R 15's. Hard to...   Feb 23 2019, 04:20 PM
sithot   So I went with Yokohama 205/55R 15's. Hard t...   Feb 23 2019, 04:41 PM
horizontally-opposed   So I went with Yokohama 205/55R 15's. Hard t...   Feb 23 2019, 09:03 PM
Amphicar770   So I went with Yokohama 205/55R 15's. Hard t...   Feb 23 2019, 09:05 PM
horizontally-opposed   Since I am going through this myself, and all th...   Feb 24 2019, 09:28 PM
Cairo94507   I would have gone with a 60 if I could have found ...   Feb 24 2019, 08:40 AM
Cairo94507   This was harder than I thought it would be. Thoug...   Feb 25 2019, 08:38 AM


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