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collinvon
post Jun 19 2019, 02:27 PM
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Looks like I found where all the oil has been coming from. I cleaned the engine as well as I could with a degreaser, ran it for 5 minutes at idle, and was able to spot a substantial leak coming out of the push rod tubes:
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I'm going to tackle this project this weekend. I've found some good older articles that mention it can be done without dropping the engine, but might have to replace the seals on a couple without fully removing them.

I'm going to replace the valve cover gaskets, adjust the valves for the first time, and I'll being doing the first oil change since I've had it. I've heard Valvoline ZR1 20W-50 is a good oil to use, and I can find it locally. Thoughts?


Aside from ensuring I don't damage the seals on reinstallation, and thoroughly cleaning everything, anything else I should keep in mind, or try to tackle while I'm in there? Any other tips and tricks are much appreciated.

Thanks in advance for any feedback.
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post Jun 19 2019, 02:54 PM
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If you've never done pushrod tubes before, I'd recommend dropping the motor. There will be a fair amount of blind wrenching, cleaning and head scratching geometry and if you're unfamiliar with how it all goes together, you'll have an easier time and learn more with the engine out. It will also give you an opportunity to change the oil cooler seals, do a full cleaning, and see if there's anything else that needs attending to. Also, if the PO used a sealant in the bores, it will be difficult to fully clean them while under the car.

In addition to the viton seals, spring for a set of new tubes. They're not expensive and you'll know they're all round and not dented (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif).

Good luck and be safe!
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post Jun 19 2019, 03:09 PM
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If you've never done pushrod tubes before, I'd recommend dropping the motor. There will be a fair amount of blind wrenching, cleaning and head scratching geometry and if you're unfamiliar with how it all goes together, you'll have an easier time and learn more with the engine out. It will also give you an opportunity to change the oil cooler seals, do a full cleaning, and see if there's anything else that needs attending to. Also, if the PO used a sealant in the bores, it will be difficult to fully clean them while under the car.

In addition to the viton seals, spring for a set of new tubes. They're not expensive and you'll know they're all round and not dented (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif).

Good luck and be safe!

Thanks for the great info. I have some viton seals on the way. I'm hoping to avoid dropping the engine for another couple of months, if at all possible. I plan to drop the motor, change all the seals/wearable parts, and see if anything else needs repair/replacement this fall while I repair some hell hole rust spots.. I will definitely be replacing the tubes themselves this fall as well.

If I have too much trouble, it looks like it's not too terrible to get the engine out. Getting it back in the first time is what is a bit more intimidating to me.

That being said, if it can be done with the engine still in, what is the best product to clean everything up with in there?
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collinvon   Push Rod Tube Seal Leak   Jun 19 2019, 02:27 PM
JawjaPorsche   Excellent oil. Get newer seals such as viton. I...   Jun 19 2019, 02:34 PM
mark04usa   Be sure to clean the push rod tubes and the bores ...   Jun 19 2019, 02:37 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   it is a very nice filthy greasy mess to do, and wi...   Jun 19 2019, 02:46 PM
cuddy_k   :agree: If you've never done pushrod tubes be...   Jun 19 2019, 02:54 PM
collinvon   :agree: If you've never done pushrod tubes b...   Jun 19 2019, 03:09 PM
cuddy_k   If you're under the car, don't use anythin...   Jun 19 2019, 03:22 PM
collinvon   If you're under the car, don't use anythi...   Jun 19 2019, 04:03 PM
Superhawk996   If you're under the car, don't use anyth...   Jun 19 2019, 11:39 PM
Mark Henry   To do them without dropping the engine you can rem...   Jun 19 2019, 03:33 PM
collinvon   To do them without dropping the engine you can re...   Jun 19 2019, 04:05 PM
cuddy_k   It's not as intimidating as it sounds/seems. I...   Jun 19 2019, 04:26 PM
collinvon   It's not as intimidating as it sounds/seems. ...   Jun 19 2019, 04:55 PM
914Toy   :agree:   Jun 19 2019, 05:01 PM
JawjaPorsche   Get valve cover gaskets from 914Rubber. They make...   Jun 19 2019, 08:49 PM
cuddy_k   ...and check to make sure the front main seal and ...   Jun 19 2019, 09:40 PM
porschetub   I've only ever changed one set with the motor ...   Jun 20 2019, 12:12 AM
IronHillRestorations   I also clean the bores, inspect for nicks and goug...   Jun 20 2019, 06:02 AM
collinvon   I also clean the bores, inspect for nicks and gou...   Jun 20 2019, 09:01 AM
IronHillRestorations   It's pretty straightforward, just be sure to s...   Jun 20 2019, 09:39 AM
collinvon   It's pretty straightforward, just be sure to ...   Jun 20 2019, 09:46 AM
collinvon   Alright, so I was able to pull the motor this last...   Jun 25 2019, 11:42 AM
cuddy_k   No, you don't need to be at TDC when you pull ...   Jun 25 2019, 12:13 PM
collinvon   No, you don't need to be at TDC when you pull...   Jun 25 2019, 12:52 PM
MarkV   I always use the Crusty method. Just seems easier ...   Jun 25 2019, 12:18 PM
collinvon   I always use the Crusty method. Just seems easier...   Jun 25 2019, 01:05 PM
IronHillRestorations   Just make sure you are on TDC#1 not #3. If the en...   Jun 25 2019, 09:30 PM
Mcraneiowa   I currently have my engine out. Can the engine be...   Dec 9 2020, 09:42 PM
isdyl   Hi - sorry to butt in with a quick question, but I...   Dec 10 2020, 12:32 PM
iankarr   If that tube has a hole in it anyway, maybe just b...   Dec 10 2020, 04:12 PM
isdyl   Thanks but I still need to get a new tube back in....   Dec 13 2020, 12:55 PM
maj75   The tubes are drain back routes for oil from the h...   Dec 13 2020, 02:51 PM
ndfrigi   If you just want to replace one tube for now, I th...   Dec 13 2020, 03:05 PM
ClayPerrine   If you put a floor jack under the engine crossbar,...   Dec 13 2020, 03:37 PM
isdyl   Thank you all - I'll give it a go! Regards...   Dec 13 2020, 04:11 PM
isdyl   Hi, I've changed one tube and repaired the hol...   Dec 14 2020, 11:28 AM
IronHillRestorations   Sorry, I don't have pics. The slot in the roc...   Dec 14 2020, 12:51 PM
isdyl   Ah, ok thanks - I'll put the rocker shafts in ...   Dec 14 2020, 12:59 PM
isdyl   Ok I think I got it in correctly. It's quite t...   Dec 15 2020, 06:52 AM


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