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tygaboy
post Aug 1 2019, 05:06 PM
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Hi World - I need some info:
I'm working to add A/C to my build and I found this little set up that's 10.5" wide, 8.5" deep and 4.5" tall.

What I don't know is what's possible in terms of orientation of these evaporator/ fan units.

I know they have to drain any condensation (and not into the motor, etc.) but assuming I address that:

- Is there any appreciable impact to how the evap unit performs if it were stood on end, turned upside down, etc.?

Essentially, does refrigerant care about flowing up vs down vs sideways?

- Do any of the other components, like the expansion valve, care about orientation?


If needed, I'm totally OK with cutting up the case, making one that suites my needs and reusing the components.

Or, if there are other considerations, if I'm missing something, please let me know.

Thanks in advance for any help!

Chris


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post Aug 2 2019, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(tygaboy @ Aug 2 2019, 02:14 PM) *

Thanks for the great input! I've been looking at this Orion fan and they do publish the fan curves, as seen here.
Any idea if a couple of these would work?
If you need me, I'll be off learning about static pressure!

Maybe. Not sure what the actual flow you need is. No idea what kind is on yours-though if you have a part number or some identifiers I'd be happy to take a look and offer some advice.

I just pulled out a spec sheet for a typical automotive-spec centrifugal blower. See how the static pressure vs. flow curve is significantly higher at low flows and has a different shape? That shape is rather important; as is the location your system falls on the curve.

For example, if the system used this blower and runs with 160 cfm air flow (this number is rather important since airflow really is what controls efficiency of the evaporator), the corresponding pressure drop of the system would be known to be 0.6 inWC (water column). To do the same thing with the axial fan you posted would require 5 fans. Or you could run at lower flows with less fans. Its tough to design without information since everything is very coupled. Likely Vintage Air uses those centrifugal blowers because the pressure curve has a lot of margin (until it hits the knee point) so they're less sensitive to long piping, lots of bends, etc. in terms of overall performance because the blower speed can always be turned down or they can have an overall governing pressure drop.

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tygaboy   Questions about Air Conditioning   Aug 1 2019, 05:06 PM
Cairo94507   Mmmmmm.....man I wish my Six had AC! :beer2:   Aug 1 2019, 05:09 PM
jcd914   I don't think freon or the expansion valve car...   Aug 1 2019, 05:18 PM
tygaboy   I don't think freon or the expansion valve ca...   Aug 1 2019, 05:38 PM
Chris914n6   You can mount it however you want, freon don't...   Aug 1 2019, 05:48 PM
tygaboy   You can mount it however you want, freon don...   Aug 1 2019, 05:57 PM
amfab   I think orientation makes a difference if it is a ...   Aug 1 2019, 07:05 PM
FL 000   I happen to be researching the same thing right no...   Aug 1 2019, 07:29 PM
Rand   AC is for weenies. Spritzer bottle. (I know, I kno...   Aug 1 2019, 07:37 PM
mepstein   AC is for weenies. Spritzer bottle. (I know, I kn...   Aug 1 2019, 08:15 PM
Rand   AC is for weenies. Spritzer bottle. (I know, I k...   Aug 1 2019, 09:14 PM
76-914   AC is for weenies. Spritzer bottle. (I know, I kn...   Aug 1 2019, 09:31 PM
Rand   AC is for weenies. Spritzer bottle. (I know, I k...   Aug 3 2019, 05:38 PM
TravisNeff   One of my past 914's had dealer installed AC. ...   Aug 1 2019, 09:10 PM
djway   Limited understanding here but I believe the liqui...   Aug 1 2019, 10:50 PM
tygaboy   Limited understanding here but I believe the liqu...   Aug 2 2019, 07:47 AM
Andyrew   The case should have some kind of drain port you c...   Aug 2 2019, 03:13 AM
tygaboy   The case should have some kind of drain port you ...   Aug 2 2019, 07:44 AM
jd74914   Thanks Andrew. I've started looking at DC bru...   Aug 2 2019, 09:11 AM
Andyrew   The case should have some kind of drain port you...   Aug 2 2019, 02:47 PM
andys   That blower motor for the squirrel cage is a very ...   Aug 2 2019, 08:56 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   if a six the new radial compressor mounts on the l...   Aug 2 2019, 09:09 AM
tygaboy   @jd74914 - Thanks for the great input! I...   Aug 2 2019, 01:14 PM
jd74914   Thanks for the great input! I've been loo...   Aug 2 2019, 01:45 PM
jd74914   Hopefully something there made sense or is useful....   Aug 2 2019, 01:57 PM
914_teener   Hopefully something there made sense or is useful...   Aug 2 2019, 02:36 PM
white1975   small made for classic mini japan   Aug 2 2019, 02:45 PM
Andyrew   small made for classic mini japan Whats that ...   Aug 2 2019, 02:48 PM
tygaboy   OK, so it seems the safest thing is to use squirre...   Aug 2 2019, 03:25 PM
Marv's3.6six   I added a one off fresh air fan and are very happy...   Aug 2 2019, 03:30 PM
Steve   Hi World - I need some info: I'm working to a...   Aug 2 2019, 08:34 PM


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