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> D-Jet lean theories
Morrie
post Jun 30 2019, 01:03 PM
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Hi Guys,

When I did a recent tune up on my car's EFI I noticed a few interesting things. Most importantly, the car is running strong, but lean. Here are my observations and findings.

Engine is a 1976 2056 running D-Jet and a 123 Distributor.

Spark plugs were clean, but a little more white than the golden brown I would like to see. Not severely burnt, no signs of oil consumption.

Idle mixture knob on ECU is full CCW to idle. Still surges a little like it is running slightly lean still.

AAR tests good. Correct PN. Closes securely within 5 minutes.
All new vacuum lines, all lines have clamps.
CHT sensor checked. Passes resistance mesurement checks both warm and cold.
MPS holds vacuum for 15minutes (Decided that was good enough and terminated test).
Checked and adjusted FPR. Now set at 29psi and holds steady. Holds pressure well after shutdown. (check valve) No drop or change in pressure when engine is revved, or during starting.
Vacuum line routing checked and re-checked against 1976 requirements. Note that this means that the crankcase is vented to the air cleaner without a PCV valve, unlike the 73 and earlier models.

These are the basics of what I have checked. I have not gone aheaad and checked flow on injectors, though it is on my list of open items.

Today I pulled the MPS to check the part number. It is the correct part number for a 2.0, but not for a 74-75. Its the proper part for a 73 2.0. Since the 73 2.0 has a different vacuum system, more of a closed circuit with the crankcase, I am theorizing that this sensor is expecting to see higher pressure numbers than the later system, and could be causing it to instruct the computer to operate at more of a lean condition.

Any thoughts from those with more experience than I would be great. I am climbing the learning curve here, and am way past clueless and now at the stage where I know enough to be dangerous.

Thanks in advance!!
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JeffBowlsby
post Jul 29 2019, 01:06 PM
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I responded to that above. Where does your beach/red wire originate?
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post Aug 17 2019, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Jul 29 2019, 02:06 PM) *

I responded to that above. Where does your beach/red wire originate?


Hi Jeff,

I had some time to trace wiring. The black wire with red stripe you see in the picture is part of the ignition harness. I printed out your 73-76 D-Jet Ignition Harness Diagram and used it for a reference. On my car, the black wire with red stripe originates at the relay board on pin 12, which maps to the AAR, so in this picture the wire is connected incorectly to the thermotime switch.

The white wire you see with the crack in the insulation originates in the FI harness.

I'm a little confused by the wiring diagram for the FI harness of a 75-76 GC engine code. It appears as if in the diagram the thermotime switch goes to both pins 32 and 33. Does this mean that the 18/33 connection on the 4 pin connector of the relay board, the Thermotime switch, and the cold start injector are all connected? It looks like there is a series connection from 31 on the relay board connector to 31 on the cold start valve, then out of the cold start valve on 32 to the thermotime switch which is connected in parallel with pin 33 on the relay board. Do I have that right?

Thanks again for the help!
Morrie


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Morrie   D-Jet lean theories   Jun 30 2019, 01:03 PM
StratPlayer   Check the plenum for leaks, cracks around the the ...   Jun 30 2019, 02:04 PM
Morrie   Check the plenum for leaks, cracks around the the...   Jun 30 2019, 05:15 PM
914_teener   Check the plenum for leaks, cracks around the th...   Jul 1 2019, 09:48 AM
Morrie   I absolutely do plan to investigate and correct ...   Jul 1 2019, 10:34 AM
914_teener   I absolutely do plan to investigate and correct...   Jul 1 2019, 03:58 PM
Morrie   I would have them flow checked and bench tested w...   Jul 3 2019, 04:04 PM
ChrisFoley   This needs to be investgated and checked or you ...   Jul 1 2019, 10:35 AM
ConeDodger   This needs to be investgated and checked or you...   Oct 1 2019, 04:27 PM
Morrie   [quote name='ChrisFoley' post='2726926' date='Jul...   Oct 1 2019, 04:33 PM
Bleyseng   What ECU do you have? What cam is installed? A 037...   Jun 30 2019, 02:56 PM
Morrie   What ECU do you have? What cam is installed? A 03...   Jun 30 2019, 05:19 PM
JeffBowlsby   Don't do anything more until you get the corre...   Jun 30 2019, 05:22 PM
Morrie   Don't do anything more until you get the corr...   Jun 30 2019, 09:47 PM
Dave_Darling   Jeff, I think you have switched TS1 and TS2. TS1 ...   Jun 30 2019, 05:39 PM
Morrie   If the FI is set up for the stock 1971cc and you...   Jun 30 2019, 09:50 PM
JeffBowlsby   You are right Dave...I had them mixed up. I forge...   Jun 30 2019, 05:50 PM
Bleyseng   The 037 ECU is for both the 1.7 and 2.0l in 1973. ...   Jul 1 2019, 08:37 AM
Morrie   The 037 ECU is for both the 1.7 and 2.0l in 1973....   Jul 1 2019, 10:36 AM
Highland   Just FYI when Mr. Injector refurbished my injector...   Jul 3 2019, 04:18 PM
Morrie   Hi Guys, I had to go out of town for a week but w...   Jul 25 2019, 09:18 PM
JeffBowlsby   the TTS is the small white wire coming off of th...   Jul 25 2019, 09:45 PM
Morrie   Black/Red on the IGNITION harness goes to the co...   Jul 26 2019, 12:05 PM
Rand   I keep hearing about cracked plenums. It is rarely...   Jul 26 2019, 03:39 PM
Morrie   I am afraid my question about the wiring got cover...   Jul 29 2019, 11:37 AM
JeffBowlsby   I responded to that above. Where does your beach/...   Jul 29 2019, 01:06 PM
Morrie   I responded to that above. Where does your beach...   Aug 17 2019, 11:43 AM
JeffBowlsby   I responded to that above. Where does your beac...   Aug 17 2019, 09:31 PM
sholman5   Throttle position switch?   Aug 17 2019, 12:24 PM
Morrie   Throttle position switch? adjusted and re-check...   Aug 17 2019, 12:58 PM
rjames   Fix any vacuum leaks first. Then I would adjust t...   Aug 17 2019, 11:27 PM
Morrie   I thought I would share an update, and mention the...   Sep 30 2019, 04:08 PM
ChrisFoley   ... He enriched the mixture slightly as is his n...   Oct 1 2019, 11:36 AM
Morrie   My suggestion is to make an additional smaller ad...   Oct 1 2019, 04:23 PM
Morrie   My suggestion is to make an additional smaller a...   Oct 8 2019, 07:13 PM
rjames   What rpms does it idle at when warm? Timing set co...   Sep 30 2019, 06:02 PM
Morrie   What rpms does it idle at when warm? Timing set c...   Sep 30 2019, 07:55 PM
JeffBowlsby   I think the last two posts are discussing the aux ...   Sep 30 2019, 07:04 PM
Morrie   I think the last two posts are discussing the aux...   Sep 30 2019, 07:51 PM
rjames   I think the last two posts are discussing the au...   Sep 30 2019, 08:25 PM
JeffBowlsby   Dbl post, sorry.   Sep 30 2019, 07:05 PM
Bleyseng   As I read it you are now running the 73 2.0L Djet ...   Oct 1 2019, 09:31 AM


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