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> Jake Raby: Cooling system testing, reichert tuning?
Aaron Cox
post Nov 28 2004, 01:48 PM
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title says it all, have you tried the horizontal fan system from reichert? at the autocross, saw a guy running this setup on a 2.7L type IV monster...

looked cool...but does it cool?
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Jake Raby
post Dec 2 2004, 02:43 PM
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You'll never understand it that way! I thought about it the same way till the engine and system taught me differently!

Until you have enough pressure in the upper plenums of the shroud it is impossible to direct the air. Thats why on my Type I DTM I ended up making the inside volume of the shroud 800ccs smaller and only then did I go from 5PSI to 9 PSI of plenum pressure. This pressure overcame to resistance of the vanes and then coupled with airfoil shaped vanes the problems were solved.

Reducing the plenum sizes and changing their shapes will boost the pressure made by the fan and help force the air out of the cylinders because its a radial fan with low volume and hi velocity..

The 911 system is different because it uses an AXIAL FAN which has alot of volume and less pressure. The holes being drilled in the shroud created a lower pressure area over the cylinders nearest the holes and the air did its best to take the path of least resistance and found its way to those parts of the shroud and cylinders. This is also impacted by the design of the under cylinder tins which we found on a TIV to create issues when using upright cooling.

The 911 system not having any vanes or deflectors benefitted from these holes being drilled, because without them all the air blows straight back on #3 and #1 and nothing to the cylinders below and underneath the fan- #2 and #4... The 911 engine does not have this issue because the fan is far enough away from the cylinders that the air does not have to bend 90 degrees to find its way there to do its job...

Without air pressure there is no way the air can be directed. A very perfectly created airfoil may overcome some of it but you still need pressure.

Lets just sum it all up by saying that I'm going to make the cylinder tins work better! Plus they will look cool! Plus they will be LIGHT!
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Aaron Cox   Jake Raby: Cooling system testing   Nov 28 2004, 01:48 PM
Elliot Cannon   Isn't that the one that goes from a verticle p...   Nov 28 2004, 01:54 PM
Aaron Cox   thats what ive been reading....   Nov 28 2004, 02:01 PM
Carrera916   Reichert fan? The electric one? Do you have a webs...   Nov 28 2004, 03:10 PM
Aaron Cox   belt drive... crank pullry to 90 degree pully to f...   Nov 28 2004, 03:13 PM
nebreitling   i agree! it seems like an electric fan (or tw...   Nov 28 2004, 03:14 PM
Aaron Cox   http://www.ismi.net/riecherttuning/ibr18.jpg http:...   Nov 28 2004, 03:18 PM
synthesisdv   here is one electric setup I have seen. don't...   Nov 28 2004, 03:29 PM
synthesisdv   more found... I have also seen a rig with one big...   Nov 28 2004, 03:34 PM
Dominic   <...   Dec 2 2004, 12:43 PM
Jake Raby   You'll never understand it that way! I tho...   Dec 2 2004, 02:43 PM
lapuwali   Pressure is generated by volume trying to move thr...   Dec 2 2004, 03:49 PM
Jake Raby   And thats why 911 fans belong on 911 engines- they...   Dec 2 2004, 04:00 PM
Reiche   Thanks for the answers guys and sorry for the thre...   Dec 3 2004, 12:12 PM
Jake Raby   The stock 914 system needs restriction under the c...   Dec 3 2004, 12:37 PM
Britain Smith   I got Type-1 tins like you suggested and they are ...   Dec 3 2004, 12:52 PM
Jake Raby   Yep, they are just flat... Thats the key, you don...   Dec 3 2004, 12:57 PM
Reiche   ...   Dec 3 2004, 01:06 PM
Jake Raby   They weren't making 50HP per cylinder and stil...   Dec 3 2004, 01:10 PM
Mueller   that is why water cooling is better !!...   Dec 3 2004, 01:11 PM
Britain Smith   ...   Dec 3 2004, 01:28 PM
Mark Henry  
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Britain Smith     Dec 3 2004, 01:37 PM
Mark Henry   With the 911 type I don't know which deflector...   Dec 3 2004, 01:41 PM
Britain Smith   As Jake knows, I also have the advantage to be run...   Dec 3 2004, 01:44 PM
Mark Henry   Don't matter. BTW me too!   Dec 3 2004, 01:49 PM


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