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> Tax Man Cometh, Why you car is worth 13K even if it is a rusty hulk
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post Sep 14 2019, 11:27 AM
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Happy Teener Day,

Bought a 'garage find' oct 18 for 3K, worked on it in the garage until this month, then I went and registered it in Massachusetts (Tax-a-chusetts).

Was told that it would be valued from the NADA retail book, for a '74 2.0 this is $13,150. Tax: 821.88.

But it gets better.......

Since I bought it 8 months previous, I have to pay a penalty for not registering it when I bought it. This comes to $294.12.

But it gets better........

When I politely inquired if I could appeal this assessment, I was told YES, here is the process.

https://www.mass.gov/files/documents/2018/1...sc-form-abt.pdf

If you look at page 3, in essence they saw me coming and had me all figured out.

So, if you have an old Porsche in MA and have not registered it in a while, move it to a friends house in NH or RI, register it there and then transfer.

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post Sep 14 2019, 01:36 PM
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The three motorcycles I purchased were either missing paperwork or incomplete so I registered all three in VT. There was no nada value listed for them so they took my "purchase" price of $500 each for the 6% sales tax. The antique registration was $29 each and no inspection was required. There are no late registration fees. It couldn't have been easier dealing with VT. A woman from the office called me about engine size and was very nice on the phone. That in it's self is shocking compared to all the DMV's in our tri state area. You do not have to be a resident of VT to register in the state and the registration is then transferable to the state you reside. Luckily, there is no yearly tax in either VT or PA.

I have a 914 chassis without paperwork that I will probably register in VT but for that one, I do have to use the nada value of $12,400.

When I buy cars for the shop or myself, I do ask the seller to sign their name and leave the rest blank. It negates a lot of possible issues. Most sellers have no issues with that request.
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post Sep 14 2019, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Sep 14 2019, 11:36 AM) *

The three motorcycles I purchased were either missing paperwork or incomplete so I registered all three in VT. There was no nada value listed for them so they took my "purchase" price of $500 each for the 6% sales tax. The antique registration was $29 each and no inspection was required. There are no late registration fees. It couldn't have been easier dealing with VT. A woman from the office called me about engine size and was very nice on the phone. That in it's self is shocking compared to all the DMV's in our tri state area. You do not have to be a resident of VT to register in the state and the registration is then transferable to the state you reside. Luckily, there is no yearly tax in either VT or PA.

I have a 914 chassis without paperwork that I will probably register in VT but for that one, I do have to use the nada value of $12,400.

When I buy cars for the shop or myself, I do ask the seller to sign their name and leave the rest blank. It negates a lot of possible issues. Most sellers have no issues with that request.


VT only works if it is a car that does not have much value. Everyone kept telling me to do VT, so I had a project 356. I sent in the paperwork, they said it would be about $8000 to register it based on the NADA value of a C Coupe. I said it was a project car and they said that's ok, just bring it to a VT inspection station and they can give it a new valuation. the closest one was 3.5 hours away, so 7 hours trailering a car, for a valuation that might not lower the value that much, was not ideal. Now that 914's are going up in value VT might backfire.


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ctc911ctc   Tax Man Cometh   Sep 14 2019, 11:27 AM
Unobtanium-inc   Happy Teener Day, Bought a 'garage find...   Sep 14 2019, 11:35 AM
914Sixer   You can't buy a parts car any more!!...   Sep 14 2019, 11:39 AM
preach   So, if you have an old Porsche in MA and have ...   Sep 14 2019, 11:43 AM
gandalf_025   New Hampshire has no sales tax, so it is easy. Mas...   Sep 14 2019, 11:50 AM
preach   New Hampshire has no sales tax, so it is easy. ...   Sep 14 2019, 11:55 AM
gandalf_025   That sounds like the Excise Tax we have in Massach...   Sep 14 2019, 12:09 PM
bandjoey   Move South :) Texas register it as a non running ...   Sep 14 2019, 12:10 PM
gandalf_025   As an example.... My 914 is valued at 550.00 The...   Sep 14 2019, 12:11 PM
mepstein   The three motorcycles I purchased were either miss...   Sep 14 2019, 01:36 PM
Unobtanium-inc   The three motorcycles I purchased were either mis...   Sep 14 2019, 03:01 PM
mepstein   The three motorcycles I purchased were either mi...   Sep 14 2019, 03:19 PM
preach   NH isn't a tax it's a fee. :lol4: Live F...   Sep 14 2019, 02:43 PM
rhodyguy   How much were you told the 356 was worth according...   Sep 14 2019, 03:22 PM
preach   No title needed in NH. IMO NH is one of the easies...   Sep 14 2019, 03:26 PM
raynekat   Just registered my 914 in Oregon. They didn't ...   Sep 14 2019, 05:26 PM
mepstein   Just registered my 914 in Oregon. They didn't...   Sep 14 2019, 05:32 PM
theer   Maine is even easier. I was in exactly the same p...   Sep 14 2019, 05:32 PM
ctc911ctc   Had I known! :headbang: Maine is even ea...   Sep 15 2019, 10:47 AM
mepstein   Maine is even easier. I was in exactly the same ...   Sep 15 2019, 11:29 AM
Larmo63   I'm surprised the pointy headed _____________ ...   Sep 15 2019, 01:47 PM


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