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raynekat
post Sep 20 2019, 01:50 PM
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Looks a bit "Rube Goldberg-ish" to me, but creative for sure.

starting at 4:07 on the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY2RPSUyIrc

The guy on the EV skateboard is nuts!
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post Sep 21 2019, 05:18 PM
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Everyone always forgets about the lithium and how toxic it is to mine, work with in manufacturing and the fact it can't be reused so it's a rolling barrel of toxic waste when it's done.

An electric cars manufacturing carbon footprint exceeds that of a pzev gasoline car in it's entire expected lifetime.

And a majority of the power consumed by these wonder cars is generated from fossil fuels or coal so it keeps making the carbon footprint bigger.

They aren't environmentally beneficial. It's just a convenient way for people to think they are. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

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post Sep 21 2019, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(Chi-town @ Sep 21 2019, 07:18 PM) *

Everyone always forgets about the lithium and how toxic it is to mine, work with in manufacturing and the fact it can't be reused so it's a rolling barrel of toxic waste when it's done.

An electric cars manufacturing carbon footprint exceeds that of a pzev gasoline car in it's entire expected lifetime.

And a majority of the power consumed by these wonder cars is generated from fossil fuels or coal so it keeps making the carbon footprint bigger.

They aren't environmentally beneficial. It's just a convenient way for people to think they are. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)


Again all great points. I'll play devils advocate for a moment.

Because Lithium historically has been pricey, battery designs continued to evolve using even less Lithium while still performing well. Lithium prices are down recently in part, due to Lithium conservation and the reduction in demand for Chinese EV's. Why is China demand down? In part, because the Chinese government is reducing its subsidy of EV's!

However, there are other expensive metals used in batteries that aren't well known, or widely discussed. Namely Cobalt, Nickel, etc. These commodities markets are very volatile even under the relatively small market share that EV's have. What happens as EV's come up to scale is anybody's guess.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/112477...other-materials

The EV situation is complex indeed.
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raynekat   EV 914   Sep 20 2019, 01:50 PM
pploco   That think looks sketchy. He should have at least ...   Sep 20 2019, 04:21 PM
Superhawk996   I honestly don't understand the whole 914 EV t...   Sep 21 2019, 09:27 AM
bbrock   I honestly don't understand the whole 914 EV ...   Sep 21 2019, 10:49 AM
Superhawk996   I totally get it grandpa. :poke: :D It's t...   Sep 21 2019, 01:07 PM
mepstein   When chi-town was selling an electric kit from a 9...   Sep 21 2019, 10:10 AM
mepstein   Sometimes it’s the journey, not the destination.   Sep 21 2019, 01:12 PM
Superhawk996   Sometimes it’s the journey, not the destination...   Sep 21 2019, 01:17 PM
bbrock   Sometimes it’s the journey, not the destination...   Sep 21 2019, 03:07 PM
Superhawk996   In 50 years there will be a Tesla forum of old ...   Sep 21 2019, 03:11 PM
Spoke   Interesting conversion. I thought he said it cost ...   Sep 21 2019, 02:30 PM
Superhawk996   Interesting conversion. I thought he said it cost...   Sep 21 2019, 03:26 PM
mepstein   I read that Porsche has developed an 80% charge in...   Sep 21 2019, 03:53 PM
Superhawk996   I read that Porsche has developed an 80% charge i...   Sep 21 2019, 05:10 PM
bbrock   There are several EV cars already on the market wi...   Sep 21 2019, 05:14 PM
Superhawk996   Oh, and EV cars sound WAY better. :hide: Depe...   Sep 21 2019, 05:20 PM
Chi-town   Everyone always forgets about the lithium and how ...   Sep 21 2019, 05:18 PM
Superhawk996   Everyone always forgets about the lithium and how...   Sep 21 2019, 05:31 PM
bbrock   In 2015, the Union of Concerned Scientists release...   Sep 21 2019, 06:46 PM
Superhawk996   In 2015, the Union of Concerned Scientists releas...   Sep 22 2019, 04:37 AM
bbrock   [b]I love the spirited debate. :D Like most r...   Sep 22 2019, 11:11 AM
Big Len   Agree w Superhawk996 and would add this about the ...   Sep 22 2019, 07:48 AM
Valy   I have 2 EVs (Ford an Nissan) and they are very pr...   Sep 22 2019, 08:29 AM
IronHillRestorations   I don't have a problem with EV's, and I th...   Sep 22 2019, 08:51 AM
mepstein   Good point. Change happens when there a compelling...   Sep 22 2019, 09:01 AM
Rand   It uses petrol. It just does.   Sep 22 2019, 11:25 AM
Superhawk996   I’m neither buying nor selling. My broader point...   Sep 22 2019, 12:36 PM
mepstein   ICE's have such a head start in the automotive...   Sep 22 2019, 12:50 PM
flipb   Disclaimer up front: My daily driver is a Tesla Mo...   Sep 23 2019, 06:50 AM
Superhawk996   Disclaimer up front: My daily driver is a Tesla M...   Sep 23 2019, 10:37 AM


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