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raynekat
post Sep 20 2019, 01:50 PM
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Looks a bit "Rube Goldberg-ish" to me, but creative for sure.

starting at 4:07 on the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY2RPSUyIrc

The guy on the EV skateboard is nuts!
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post Sep 22 2019, 12:36 PM
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I’m neither buying nor selling. My broader point is let the consumer choose and to present them with both the Pros and the Cons based on factual data.

I really do like EVs in a lot of ways. They are just being sold as the right solution for everyone everywhere and that clearly isn’t the case.

The fact that that report referenced the Nissan LEAF was a gift. I didn’t cherry pick the eBay example. It is widely known within the industry that Leaf batteries are failing at a rate far above their competitors. Your Tesla data is pretty sound but may be a touch ambitious. Time will tell.

We’ll split the difference on life cycle. The smaller life cycle was indeed for the short range EVs of which the Leaf applies. However there are an abundance of leafs that will never make it past the 10 year 100,000 miles without replacement. The full life cycle did apply to the high range EV's like Tesla. It really was a gift horse I didn’t expect to find in the report.

With respect to the hybrids not being in scope, that may be a fair point but their exclusion ignores the immediately viable solution and analysis in favor of bias toward EVs. Hybrids are the exclusion of good in pursuit of perfect.

I agree that all science is biased by human nature. We just owe it to ourselves to look at both the Pro and the Cons and to let the consumer choose. At the turn of the 20th century no one had to incentivize the switch from EVs to ICE. When EVs are truly ready and better they will not have to be incentivized to move people from ICE to EVs. Especially when we are subsidizing $100k Tesla’s at the expense of the middle class.
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raynekat   EV 914   Sep 20 2019, 01:50 PM
pploco   That think looks sketchy. He should have at least ...   Sep 20 2019, 04:21 PM
Superhawk996   I honestly don't understand the whole 914 EV t...   Sep 21 2019, 09:27 AM
bbrock   I honestly don't understand the whole 914 EV ...   Sep 21 2019, 10:49 AM
Superhawk996   I totally get it grandpa. :poke: :D It's t...   Sep 21 2019, 01:07 PM
mepstein   When chi-town was selling an electric kit from a 9...   Sep 21 2019, 10:10 AM
mepstein   Sometimes it’s the journey, not the destination.   Sep 21 2019, 01:12 PM
Superhawk996   Sometimes it’s the journey, not the destination...   Sep 21 2019, 01:17 PM
bbrock   Sometimes it’s the journey, not the destination...   Sep 21 2019, 03:07 PM
Superhawk996   In 50 years there will be a Tesla forum of old ...   Sep 21 2019, 03:11 PM
Spoke   Interesting conversion. I thought he said it cost ...   Sep 21 2019, 02:30 PM
Superhawk996   Interesting conversion. I thought he said it cost...   Sep 21 2019, 03:26 PM
mepstein   I read that Porsche has developed an 80% charge in...   Sep 21 2019, 03:53 PM
Superhawk996   I read that Porsche has developed an 80% charge i...   Sep 21 2019, 05:10 PM
bbrock   There are several EV cars already on the market wi...   Sep 21 2019, 05:14 PM
Superhawk996   Oh, and EV cars sound WAY better. :hide: Depe...   Sep 21 2019, 05:20 PM
Chi-town   Everyone always forgets about the lithium and how ...   Sep 21 2019, 05:18 PM
Superhawk996   Everyone always forgets about the lithium and how...   Sep 21 2019, 05:31 PM
bbrock   In 2015, the Union of Concerned Scientists release...   Sep 21 2019, 06:46 PM
Superhawk996   In 2015, the Union of Concerned Scientists releas...   Sep 22 2019, 04:37 AM
bbrock   [b]I love the spirited debate. :D Like most r...   Sep 22 2019, 11:11 AM
Big Len   Agree w Superhawk996 and would add this about the ...   Sep 22 2019, 07:48 AM
Valy   I have 2 EVs (Ford an Nissan) and they are very pr...   Sep 22 2019, 08:29 AM
IronHillRestorations   I don't have a problem with EV's, and I th...   Sep 22 2019, 08:51 AM
mepstein   Good point. Change happens when there a compelling...   Sep 22 2019, 09:01 AM
Rand   It uses petrol. It just does.   Sep 22 2019, 11:25 AM
Superhawk996   I’m neither buying nor selling. My broader point...   Sep 22 2019, 12:36 PM
mepstein   ICE's have such a head start in the automotive...   Sep 22 2019, 12:50 PM
flipb   Disclaimer up front: My daily driver is a Tesla Mo...   Sep 23 2019, 06:50 AM
Superhawk996   Disclaimer up front: My daily driver is a Tesla M...   Sep 23 2019, 10:37 AM


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