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raynekat |
Sep 20 2019, 01:50 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,159 Joined: 30-December 14 From: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Member No.: 18,263 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Looks a bit "Rube Goldberg-ish" to me, but creative for sure.
starting at 4:07 on the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY2RPSUyIrc The guy on the EV skateboard is nuts! |
Superhawk996 |
Sep 22 2019, 12:36 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,898 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
I’m neither buying nor selling. My broader point is let the consumer choose and to present them with both the Pros and the Cons based on factual data.
I really do like EVs in a lot of ways. They are just being sold as the right solution for everyone everywhere and that clearly isn’t the case. The fact that that report referenced the Nissan LEAF was a gift. I didn’t cherry pick the eBay example. It is widely known within the industry that Leaf batteries are failing at a rate far above their competitors. Your Tesla data is pretty sound but may be a touch ambitious. Time will tell. We’ll split the difference on life cycle. The smaller life cycle was indeed for the short range EVs of which the Leaf applies. However there are an abundance of leafs that will never make it past the 10 year 100,000 miles without replacement. The full life cycle did apply to the high range EV's like Tesla. It really was a gift horse I didn’t expect to find in the report. With respect to the hybrids not being in scope, that may be a fair point but their exclusion ignores the immediately viable solution and analysis in favor of bias toward EVs. Hybrids are the exclusion of good in pursuit of perfect. I agree that all science is biased by human nature. We just owe it to ourselves to look at both the Pro and the Cons and to let the consumer choose. At the turn of the 20th century no one had to incentivize the switch from EVs to ICE. When EVs are truly ready and better they will not have to be incentivized to move people from ICE to EVs. Especially when we are subsidizing $100k Tesla’s at the expense of the middle class. |
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