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bkrantz |
Oct 12 2019, 09:49 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,801 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I would appreciate some answers and other feedback--don't be shy.
A month ago I brought home a 1973 2 liter. The car came with a COA that shows the engine and trans as original, as is the color. It has all the original performance/appearance parts, including 5 good Fuchs wheels. It was not running when I bought it, but did run earlier in the year. My initial assessment showed some minor rust and body issues, but it looked solid. Now after a month of stripping down, I have found more rust, mostly in the floor. The areas under both seats are either very thin or with some small holes, and both front floor corners have 4 inch holes. The upper fire wall behind the passenger seat has rusted through, as has the right engine shelf. The top of the hell hole has extreme scale, but no holes (until I really dug in with my chisel). And I found a couple of small holes in the inner fender where the battery tray (replaced) attaches. On the plus side, the longs are very solid and clean, inner and outer, on both sides, as is the lower fire wall where all the cable fittings attach. Other body issues: the front and rear right fenders were replaced at some time, as was the right side of the front panel (but the floor and inner right fender are original). The groove for the front trunk gasket is messed up in places, but not rusty. The rear trunk and engine lid hinge mounts are messed up. The windshield was glued and sealed with at least 4 different kinds of stuff. All the bright trim, and the bumpers, were painted black--and the front bumper looks repaired under the paint. And the black carries over with undercoat sprayed in the engine compartment, both trunks, and passenger area. Inside, the seats were recovered--not stock but look pretty good. The dash and firewall cover look good. The door cards are uncut, but somebody cut speakers into the sides of the center console. One final observation: the more I take things apart, the more ghetto repairs I find, with non-stock, mixed hardware, home-made brackets and wiring, and cheats. First question: should I continue with my plan to restore to a nice running but not 100% vintage state? I kept looking for a place to stop as things came apart, but in my quest to remove all the sketchy stuff I am approaching a bare shell. Second question: is this car worth the effort to replace the floor, patch the other rust, and straighten various bends and mis-fits? I know I will end up with a complete paint job, and replacing most of the rubber and trim. And none of this even considers the drive train. Final question: if I end up with the body shell stripped bare, what's the logical approach and order of work, considering the floor, local patching around the hell hole and fire wall, and work on the front and rear? Attached thumbnail(s) |
bkrantz |
Oct 13 2019, 08:16 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,801 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Thanks, everyone--I much appreciate your replies. Some answers (and more questions).
I do have the space, tools, and experience, though the last true restoration I did was 20 years ago. And I sort of have the time, since I am semi-retired with lots of flexibility in my schedule. I understand and agree about how almost all older cars have hidden surprises, and fixing something correctly is a good way to know what I have. I don't have a budget (yet), but I have thought about how far upside down I can tolerate (with an alternate view below). Let's say I finish this by stripping, fixing, and painting the body, rebuild the engine and most mechanicals, install the original decent interior, and restore or replace all the trim and rubber. This would not be a concours product (I hope I can resist trying for that). What would a fair value be? I worry about finding replacement fenders front and rear on the right, but the door looks untouched (and original), as do the front and rear interior panels. My guess is that the car got dinged mildly on both corners, maybe in separate incidents. I do plan to measure as much as I can and check the alignment before going much further. After talking with my son today (and all the feedback so far from 914World) if feel encouraged. My son asked the key question: is this what I want to do with my time? Right now, I say yes. And I am willing to pay not just for the result, but for the "fun times" ahead. |
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