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> So what advantages, besides rear mount cooler, small /6 conversions offer?
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post Nov 14 2019, 03:14 PM
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Yeah, back to looking at 2.2 and 2.4 engines while day dreaming. Not sure it is relational...

Just curious If there are any significant handling/weight advantages. I don’t think so, so does it come down to aesthetics of how the engine spin and sound?

I will duck and cover now...
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post Nov 14 2019, 07:07 PM
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Mine is a 2.4 S heads, Weber’s with mod Solex cams which I built about three years ago.

First of all I built it from the 2.4 T motor that was already in the car, so there was no thought of buying another motor. Probably true for many people.

Second I just love the nature of the smaller displacement motors - the way they sound, the way they rev. I think that it just fits the nature of the car. These are vintage Porsche’s after all.

I run a stock 914-4 side shifter, and again a real nice match up.

I have tracked the car once, just to see how it ran. It did fine vs a variety of Caymans, boxster, SC vintage 911’s.

How freakin fast do you want to go anyway? This thing is a pretty quick little street car that is just a blast to drive on the street. And it has plenty of torque.

No oil cooler necessary

I drive it a lot - two or three times a week, that probably equates to 1500 miles a year. Even if I built a crap motor and the mag cases shit the bed after 20,000 miles (neither seems likely) I will be long gone by then.

So why NOT build a nice quick, vintage small displacement motor? For our use, nothing wrong with them at all. In fact it is the essence of what made Porsche so viscerally desirable and mythical back in the day. Yes it does feel just right for me too.

I’ve got a “spare” mag motor with everything I need to build a 2.2 S motor and will do that long before I search out a “more durable, stronger” 3 liter. These things are toys, not long haul diesel semi trucks.

This Discussion makes me want to go out in the garage and start the thing just for grins.
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post Nov 15 2019, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(gereed75 @ Nov 15 2019, 02:07 PM) *

Mine is a 2.4 S heads, Weber’s with mod Solex cams which I built about three years ago.

First of all I built it from the 2.4 T motor that was already in the car, so there was no thought of buying another motor. Probably true for many people.

Second I just love the nature of the smaller displacement motors - the way they sound, the way they rev. I think that it just fits the nature of the car. These are vintage Porsche’s after all.

I run a stock 914-4 side shifter, and again a real nice match up.

I have tracked the car once, just to see how it ran. It did fine vs a variety of Caymans, boxster, SC vintage 911’s.

How freakin fast do you want to go anyway? This thing is a pretty quick little street car that is just a blast to drive on the street. And it has plenty of torque.

No oil cooler necessary

I drive it a lot - two or three times a week, that probably equates to 1500 miles a year. Even if I built a crap motor and the mag cases shit the bed after 20,000 miles (neither seems likely) I will be long gone by then.

So why NOT build a nice quick, vintage small displacement motor? For our use, nothing wrong with them at all. In fact it is the essence of what made Porsche so viscerally desirable and mythical back in the day. Yes it does feel just right for me too.

I’ve got a “spare” mag motor with everything I need to build a 2.2 S motor and will do that long before I search out a “more durable, stronger” 3 liter. These things are toys, not long haul diesel semi trucks.

This Discussion makes me want to go out in the garage and start the thing just for grins.


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) best answer yet,makes you think more about power to weight when you compare say a 2.2 against a 3.2 with front cooler .
Anyone ever weighed the cooler and all the other parts needed I wonder.
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Tdskip   So what advantages, besides rear mount cooler, small /6 conversions offer?   Nov 14 2019, 03:14 PM
mb911   Less low end tq, same if not more cost to rebuild....   Nov 14 2019, 03:23 PM
brant   the advantages for a small bore -6 are really depe...   Nov 14 2019, 03:31 PM
mepstein   Mag cases are lighter Smaller engines have a diffe...   Nov 14 2019, 04:06 PM
Superhawk996   Mag cases are lighter Smaller engines have a diff...   Nov 14 2019, 04:27 PM
horizontally-opposed   Mag cases are lighter Smaller engines have a diff...   Nov 14 2019, 05:36 PM
roblav1   I've had many 911 engined cars... the most b...   Nov 14 2019, 06:40 PM
Mark Henry   It's not that much lighter, I forget but it...   Nov 14 2019, 06:57 PM
gereed75   Mine is a 2.4 S heads, Weber’s with mod Solex ca...   Nov 14 2019, 07:07 PM
porschetub   Mine is a 2.4 S heads, Weber’s with mod Solex c...   Nov 15 2019, 02:44 PM
mepstein   Mine is a 2.4 S heads, Weber’s with mod Solex ...   Nov 15 2019, 03:24 PM
Superhawk996   Lifted from Pelican or somewhere else along the li...   Nov 14 2019, 08:32 PM
Tdskip   Thanks for the weight specs @superhawk996 Looks...   Nov 14 2019, 08:49 PM
Mark Henry   Thanks for the weight specs [b]@[url=http://www....   Nov 15 2019, 07:32 AM
Superhawk996   Many have the opinion that the /4 handles better...   Nov 15 2019, 08:17 AM
mepstein   For me, the 3.2's make sense because I like th...   Nov 14 2019, 09:00 PM
ConeDodger   For me, the 3.2's make sense because I like t...   Nov 14 2019, 09:04 PM
campbellcj   Gotta said I really had a blast with my car in mag...   Nov 15 2019, 07:59 AM
brant   2.0/6 with twin plugs and 906 cams... the sound: ...   Nov 15 2019, 10:34 AM
horizontally-opposed   2.0/6 with twin plugs and 906 cams... the sound:...   Nov 15 2019, 01:17 PM
jmitro   the sound: hallet race OT but that's not Hal...   Nov 16 2019, 06:07 PM
brant   [quote name='brant' post='2762301' date='Nov 15 2...   Nov 16 2019, 10:43 PM
gereed75   10 pounds per horsepower is a pretty quick car and...   Nov 15 2019, 06:36 PM
Superhawk996   10 pounds per horsepower is a pretty quick car an...   Nov 15 2019, 07:37 PM
Tdskip   @mepstein - did those items you listed off come u...   Nov 15 2019, 07:18 PM
mepstein   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Nov 15 2019, 08:11 PM
914forme   Pretty good list, but I can add to that. Shorten ...   Nov 15 2019, 08:29 PM
mepstein   I figured if I took off 200-250lbs, the weight of ...   Nov 15 2019, 08:44 PM
johnhora   Tdskip What's the planned use for the 914...t...   Nov 15 2019, 09:36 PM
ClayPerrine   Betty would say "This is cute, coming from th...   Nov 16 2019, 05:43 AM
Superhawk996   :agree: Amen Clay. I've seen different ve...   Nov 16 2019, 07:42 AM
mepstein   Sounds like my Morini sport. Underpowered compared...   Nov 16 2019, 07:48 AM
phillstek   I’ve had four x sixes in my car over the 31 year...   Nov 16 2019, 04:09 PM
Maltese Falcon   I think the hot rod T4 engines def have an advanta...   Nov 16 2019, 05:10 PM
sixnotfour   I think the hot rod T4 engines def have an advant...   Nov 17 2019, 01:17 AM
mlindner   Not sure of any advantage other than fun. Last sta...   Nov 17 2019, 05:42 AM
Mark Henry   Any size /6 while I'd agree it's stupid mo...   Nov 17 2019, 08:54 AM
Tdskip   That engine looks fantastic   Nov 17 2019, 09:25 AM
mlindner   That looks great Mark H. thanks for the pics.   Nov 17 2019, 10:10 AM
Mark Henry   That engine looks fantastic That looks great Ma...   Nov 17 2019, 07:33 PM


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