So what advantages, besides rear mount cooler, small /6 conversions offer? |
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So what advantages, besides rear mount cooler, small /6 conversions offer? |
Tdskip |
Nov 14 2019, 03:14 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Yeah, back to looking at 2.2 and 2.4 engines while day dreaming. Not sure it is relational...
Just curious If there are any significant handling/weight advantages. I don’t think so, so does it come down to aesthetics of how the engine spin and sound? I will duck and cover now... |
gereed75 |
Nov 14 2019, 07:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,250 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States |
Mine is a 2.4 S heads, Weber’s with mod Solex cams which I built about three years ago.
First of all I built it from the 2.4 T motor that was already in the car, so there was no thought of buying another motor. Probably true for many people. Second I just love the nature of the smaller displacement motors - the way they sound, the way they rev. I think that it just fits the nature of the car. These are vintage Porsche’s after all. I run a stock 914-4 side shifter, and again a real nice match up. I have tracked the car once, just to see how it ran. It did fine vs a variety of Caymans, boxster, SC vintage 911’s. How freakin fast do you want to go anyway? This thing is a pretty quick little street car that is just a blast to drive on the street. And it has plenty of torque. No oil cooler necessary I drive it a lot - two or three times a week, that probably equates to 1500 miles a year. Even if I built a crap motor and the mag cases shit the bed after 20,000 miles (neither seems likely) I will be long gone by then. So why NOT build a nice quick, vintage small displacement motor? For our use, nothing wrong with them at all. In fact it is the essence of what made Porsche so viscerally desirable and mythical back in the day. Yes it does feel just right for me too. I’ve got a “spare” mag motor with everything I need to build a 2.2 S motor and will do that long before I search out a “more durable, stronger” 3 liter. These things are toys, not long haul diesel semi trucks. This Discussion makes me want to go out in the garage and start the thing just for grins. |
porschetub |
Nov 15 2019, 02:44 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,703 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
Mine is a 2.4 S heads, Weber’s with mod Solex cams which I built about three years ago. First of all I built it from the 2.4 T motor that was already in the car, so there was no thought of buying another motor. Probably true for many people. Second I just love the nature of the smaller displacement motors - the way they sound, the way they rev. I think that it just fits the nature of the car. These are vintage Porsche’s after all. I run a stock 914-4 side shifter, and again a real nice match up. I have tracked the car once, just to see how it ran. It did fine vs a variety of Caymans, boxster, SC vintage 911’s. How freakin fast do you want to go anyway? This thing is a pretty quick little street car that is just a blast to drive on the street. And it has plenty of torque. No oil cooler necessary I drive it a lot - two or three times a week, that probably equates to 1500 miles a year. Even if I built a crap motor and the mag cases shit the bed after 20,000 miles (neither seems likely) I will be long gone by then. So why NOT build a nice quick, vintage small displacement motor? For our use, nothing wrong with them at all. In fact it is the essence of what made Porsche so viscerally desirable and mythical back in the day. Yes it does feel just right for me too. I’ve got a “spare” mag motor with everything I need to build a 2.2 S motor and will do that long before I search out a “more durable, stronger” 3 liter. These things are toys, not long haul diesel semi trucks. This Discussion makes me want to go out in the garage and start the thing just for grins. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) best answer yet,makes you think more about power to weight when you compare say a 2.2 against a 3.2 with front cooler . Anyone ever weighed the cooler and all the other parts needed I wonder. |
mepstein |
Nov 15 2019, 03:24 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,307 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Mine is a 2.4 S heads, Weber’s with mod Solex cams which I built about three years ago. First of all I built it from the 2.4 T motor that was already in the car, so there was no thought of buying another motor. Probably true for many people. Second I just love the nature of the smaller displacement motors - the way they sound, the way they rev. I think that it just fits the nature of the car. These are vintage Porsche’s after all. I run a stock 914-4 side shifter, and again a real nice match up. I have tracked the car once, just to see how it ran. It did fine vs a variety of Caymans, boxster, SC vintage 911’s. How freakin fast do you want to go anyway? This thing is a pretty quick little street car that is just a blast to drive on the street. And it has plenty of torque. No oil cooler necessary I drive it a lot - two or three times a week, that probably equates to 1500 miles a year. Even if I built a crap motor and the mag cases shit the bed after 20,000 miles (neither seems likely) I will be long gone by then. So why NOT build a nice quick, vintage small displacement motor? For our use, nothing wrong with them at all. In fact it is the essence of what made Porsche so viscerally desirable and mythical back in the day. Yes it does feel just right for me too. I’ve got a “spare” mag motor with everything I need to build a 2.2 S motor and will do that long before I search out a “more durable, stronger” 3 liter. These things are toys, not long haul diesel semi trucks. This Discussion makes me want to go out in the garage and start the thing just for grins. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) best answer yet,makes you think more about power to weight when you compare say a 2.2 against a 3.2 with front cooler . Anyone ever weighed the cooler and all the other parts needed I wonder. I didn't weigh mine but I bet the 22' of braided line, cooler, fittings and extras don't add more than 15lbs. Add some weight for oil but there's also a little more oil capacity. There are lots of ways to save some weight; lids and bumpers, lightweight batteries and high torque starters. Early doors, light carpet and sound deadening material, lighter muffler and headers etc. With the right suspension and alignment, these cars shouldn't feel heavy, even with a big engine. They can be driven differently. With a strong engine, you can steer with the throttle. Once while waiting on a plane at the airport, I played around with weight reduction on my stock '71. I came up with 300lbs on paper. Less than $3K in cost. That would be a 15% reduction and change the power to weight ratio of the 2000lb, 75 hp car. Add a very easy to build 120hp 4 cylinder and you have a pretty fun car for not much money. There's many ways to skin this cat. |
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