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| AKFish |
Nov 11 2019, 05:39 PM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 10-December 18 From: Nampa, Idaho Member No.: 22,714 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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HI there, my name is Dominic and I have an avid reader of this forum for nearly a year, now its time to get rolling on my project...
About this time last year, I purchased a 1973 914 2.0. The previous owners bought it as part of a bundle of 914's and only kept a couple. I have some documentation from when the car was first purchased, but the more recent owners have proven elusive. It was owned by a member here named "kurbfrog" but he/she has not responded to my contact attempts, so recent history is a bit murky. Sounds like the guy I really want to talk to, headed south of the border in a bit of a hurry. I acquired the car in a partially disassembled state. The engine, a 2.0 with it's original FI still attached, is out and pretty much everything is removed from the engine bay and the interior. Many of the removed parts are carefully bagged up and some even have labels. On the whole, the car is in pretty solid condition, however, there are some of the typical rust issues..... The engine shelf has been cut for A/C and there is rust in the hell hole and I can see rust developing in the outer long (I think that's what it is called). My reading here would suggest that there is a lot more than meets the eye. What I would really like to do is find out if the engine runs...and if so, just put the car back together and drive it for a while. I could decide after that, if a "rustoration" is right for me...I have zero background in fabrication/welding. Question: What are the MUST DO items to perform on the engine while it is out, to give me the best odds of getting the car going again? P.S. My car came with this 1975 Roller that is pretty well gutted. |
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Dec 10 2019, 08:22 AM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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On double-walled repairs, I took two approaches. My preferred option was to cut the outer layer oversized so that the patch for the inner layer was smaller than the outer and weld the patches in separately. If the original layers were spot welded together at the patch location, I would punch the outer layer patch before butt welding it in so I could plug weld the patches together after the butt welding was done. That option may have been overkill, but I felt it got me closest to how the original structure was built.
Option 2 was done when there was not enough room for option 1, and was what you are thinking. Spot/plug weld the two layers of metal in the patch together and then butt weld them in as a unit. When I did that, I ground the edges of the openings and the patch to make a 'V' and made sure my welds were striking the bottom layers to make sure both layers of the patch were solidly butt welded to the structure. It does no good to install a double-layer patch if only the top layer is welded to the surrounding structure. Make sure you treat the rust inside those longs while you have them open. I sprayed the insides of my longs with phosphoric acid using a garden sprayer. After that sat for a day, I rinsed them out with water and very thoroughly dried them with a heat gun, making sure to bake all of the seams dry. My longs were opened wide so I followed the acid treatment with two coats of epoxy primer. After everything was welded shut again, I coated the internals with Eastwood Internal Frame Coating. Then after I had painted, I coated all the internals with 3M Cavity Wax Plus. Again, probably overkill but after all the rust I had seen, multiple belts and suspenders didn't seem so crazy. |
AKFish '73 914 2.0....what to do first? Nov 11 2019, 05:39 PM
AKFish The engine as I received it...
Nov 11 2019, 05:43 PM
AKFish The bad...
Nov 11 2019, 05:44 PM
AKFish Outer long?
Nov 11 2019, 05:46 PM
AKFish Cut out for A/C...
Nov 11 2019, 05:47 PM
AKFish This 1975 came as part of the package...its been h... Nov 11 2019, 05:58 PM
AKFish I included the VIN in the data base, but here it i... Nov 11 2019, 06:05 PM
SteveL Step one is to identify all rust and repair. Hell... Nov 11 2019, 06:41 PM
AKFish
Step one is to identify all rust and repair. Hel... Nov 11 2019, 07:24 PM
Mike Bellis
Oh boy...ok. 1. Buy welder. 2. Learn how to weld... Nov 12 2019, 09:37 PM
barefoot
HI there, my name is Dominic and I have an avid r... Nov 11 2019, 07:47 PM
AKFish
[quote name='AKFish' post='2761318' date='Nov 11 ... Nov 11 2019, 08:14 PM
Superhawk996
:drooley: Very nice looking engine and tr... Nov 12 2019, 12:36 PM
914_7T3 Nice Project!
Several members including mysel... Nov 12 2019, 12:20 AM
AKFish
Nice Project!
Several members including myse... Nov 12 2019, 06:41 PM
914_7T3
[quote name='914_7T3' date='Nov 12 20... Nov 12 2019, 06:50 PM
AKFish Here's mine, lots more subcontract work and to... Nov 12 2019, 09:02 PM
jcd914 You can run the engine outside the car.
It is easi... Nov 12 2019, 12:29 AM
Tdskip Good morning and welcome.
In addition to what th... Nov 12 2019, 10:49 AM
sfrenck Consider buying a roller if you don't want to ... Nov 12 2019, 11:22 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com very little rust in your car, and all of the repai... Nov 12 2019, 12:04 PM
bbrock Nice Car! Right year. Right engine. And righ... Nov 12 2019, 12:21 PM
Superhawk996
Honestly, what you've shown so far doesn... Nov 12 2019, 12:30 PM
bbrock
[quote name='bbrock' post='2761552' date='Nov 12 ... Nov 12 2019, 03:18 PM
AKFish
[quote name='bbrock' post='2761552' date='Nov 12... Nov 12 2019, 09:06 PM
Rand Don't put money into drivetrain unless you wan... Nov 12 2019, 12:33 PM
jmitro in my opinion doing metal fab and welding takes a ... Nov 12 2019, 01:29 PM
AKFish Ok dang it, I’ll have to figure out how to respo... Nov 12 2019, 07:50 PM
bbrock
Ok dang it, I’ll have to figure out how to resp... Nov 12 2019, 09:40 PM
AKFish @914_7T3 just comparing our VIN #’s. They were... Nov 13 2019, 06:07 PM
914_7T3
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Nov 13 2019, 11:38 PM
AKFish Drivers side jack post hole is paper thin and the ... Nov 23 2019, 08:43 PM
rhodyguy It's the work to be done before you start cutt... Nov 23 2019, 08:53 PM
AKFish
It's the work to be done before you start cut... Nov 23 2019, 10:06 PM
mepstein You will have to cut out all the rusty metal anywa... Nov 23 2019, 08:56 PM
AKFish
You can repair the car without a frame. Jack it u... Nov 23 2019, 10:03 PM
mepstein Hows the right rear suspension consoles? Water run... Nov 23 2019, 10:12 PM
AKFish
Hows the right rear suspension consoles? Water ru... Nov 23 2019, 10:32 PM
bbrock Well NOW you have a project. I agree with @mepst... Nov 23 2019, 11:31 PM
Superhawk996 One thing to keep in mind with respect to putting ... Nov 24 2019, 10:57 AM
AKFish OK, enough “analysis paralysis”! Bought a ... Dec 9 2019, 07:36 PM
AKFish Today I went digging around the jack post area....... Dec 9 2019, 07:45 PM
rjames
Today I went digging around the jack post area...... Dec 9 2019, 08:41 PM
AKFish
Today I went digging around the jack post area..... Dec 9 2019, 10:17 PM
rjames Yes. I was in a similar situation. The outer layer... Dec 9 2019, 11:50 PM
jmitro I removed part of the rear quarter panel to repair... Dec 9 2019, 09:32 PM
AKFish @jmitro your project is an impressive feat to be ... Dec 9 2019, 09:50 PM
dlee6204
Yes. I was in a similar situation. The outer laye... Dec 10 2019, 03:32 AM
AKFish Well, its been a little over two years since I upd... Jan 29 2022, 08:58 PM![]() ![]() |
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