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| bkrantz |
Dec 17 2019, 09:45 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,616 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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So based on experience and expert knowledge, what's the best way to prep metal for lap joints, especially with plug welds? No paint or treatment? Ospho? Weld-through primer? And what about seam sealant after welding before paint?
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| doug_b_928 |
Dec 18 2019, 04:21 PM
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I've been following a similar procedure to most here. But, I've been using POR Metal Prep on the old metal after media blasting. I contacted POR and asked them for their recommendation re wax and grease remover prior to epoxy. Their response was that wax and grease remover might adversely affect the paint adhering to the metal. They said the epoxy (or POR paint) should be applied within 48 hours of the application of the metal prep (once dried, of course), and if outside that window to reapply the metal prep. Then apply the epoxy primer (POR paint likes to adhere to any flash rust that forms but they said for epoxy primer to either leave it or possibly sand off any flash rust, they weren't sure which would be best in the case of epoxy primer). So, I've been reapplying my metal prep (and neutralizing with water, of course) the day before epoxy priming (so the metal is completely dry) and then just blowing off the area to remove any loose, chalky zinc coating. It seems to be working very well. This is for structural repair areas and not on the cosmetic parts of the car. YMMV.
Regarding weld thru, I started out using zinc and using a broken/flat drill bit to clean it from the plug weld location, but, despite doing my best to remove it from the plug area, I didn't like how it welded at all. I switched to UPol copper and I don't even remove it from the plug weld location. It welds thru great IMHO. I only apply it to the projected 'heat affected zone' of the weld area. Apparently the theory with zinc weld thru is that it's proximity to the weld (where it was burned away during welding) is enough to inhibit rust even in the burned area. I'm hoping the copper works the same way. |
bkrantz Consensus on Lap Joint Weld Prep? Dec 17 2019, 09:45 PM
cary Metal : ?
Old on old ?
New on Old ?
New on new ?
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Literati914 Scuff to clean metal, then phosphoric acid, let dr... Dec 17 2019, 11:42 PM
bbrock
Scuff to clean metal, then phosphoric acid, let d... Dec 18 2019, 09:00 AM

FL 000
This was my process too. Only thing I'll ad... Dec 18 2019, 01:43 PM
BeatNavy
(I've paid good money for Weld Thru primer th... Dec 18 2019, 04:06 PM
Costa05 Definitely no expert here but I lap welded my fron... Dec 17 2019, 11:54 PM
Tdskip UPol high zinc does not burn back much it at all i... Dec 18 2019, 11:18 AM
cary I use the same U-Pol weld thru primer.
But it only... Dec 18 2019, 02:09 PM
FourBlades Weld through primer is a misnomer in my opinion. M... Dec 18 2019, 02:49 PM
Superhawk996 Just a generalized statement.
Avoid lap welds i... Dec 18 2019, 03:58 PM
bretth Weld through primers I have used always contaminat... Dec 18 2019, 04:18 PM
rjames FCA Explains Ban on Weld-Through Primer Dec 18 2019, 08:27 PM
doug_b_928 Here's a link to a discussion I had a couple o... Dec 18 2019, 09:38 PM
bkrantz Thanks, everyone. Dec 18 2019, 11:06 PM
mb911 The ban link is a good one.. Remember steel melts ... Dec 19 2019, 05:52 AM![]() ![]() |
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