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Ian Stott
post Dec 30 2019, 07:41 AM
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This is a very difficult to get item to get! Many have said soaking the existing one in kerosene for a few days will do the trick, have not done that yet as I am still trying to track down a new one. Wondering what the success rate has been with soaking it in kerosene, also wondering would WD 40 do the same thing. Would hate to ruin the one I have, which is original to the car!

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post Jan 3 2020, 07:10 AM
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It doesn't "control the vacuum" (if I understand you correctly); it uses manifold vacuum to open itself, to add un-throttled air to the intake to lean it the mixture on decel to reduce backfire (and excessive emissions) due to a rich mixture.

Modern EFI simply backs off the injector pulse (or shuts off the injectors entirely) when the throttle is closed (as indicated by the TPS) and on engine over-run to lean out the mixture. For whatever reason, D-Jet was not able to do that back then (or maybe they didn't think of it?)

Testing the decel valve is fairly straightforward. With no vacuum on the port, the valve should be closed and you can't blow through it. Adding a vacuum via a Mity-Vac and the valve should open and you can blow through it. As I recall the desired setting for that cutover is 17mmHg?

If you can blow through it when it's off the car, and/or cannot blow through it with vacuum on it, then it's bad and/or out of adjustment. I wouln'dt be surprised if a prior owner danked around with the adjustment...

If it works fine but the cutover vacuum is either too high or too low, then it can be adjusted via that locknut and screw to ~17mmHg.

What are your current symptoms when testing in this manner?
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QUOTE(GregAmy @ Jan 3 2020, 09:10 AM) *

It doesn't "control the vacuum" (if I understand you correctly); it uses manifold vacuum to open itself, to add un-throttled air to the intake to lean it the mixture on decel to reduce backfire (and excessive emissions) due to a rich mixture.

Modern EFI simply backs off the injector pulse (or shuts off the injectors entirely) when the throttle is closed (as indicated by the TPS) and on engine over-run to lean out the mixture. For whatever reason, D-Jet was not able to do that back then (or maybe they didn't think of it?)

Testing the decel valve is fairly straightforward. With no vacuum on the port, the valve should be closed and you can't blow through it. Adding a vacuum via a Mity-Vac and the valve should open and you can blow through it. As I recall the desired setting for that cutover is 17mmHg?

If you can blow through it when it's off the car, and/or cannot blow through it with vacuum on it, then it's bad and/or out of adjustment. I wouln'dt be surprised if a prior owner danked around with the adjustment...

If it works fine but the cutover vacuum is either too high or too low, then it can be adjusted via that locknut and screw to ~17mmHg.

What are your current symptoms when testing in this manner?

Will talk to the mechanic about what you have posted, thanks so much for the info, will keep you posted!

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Ian Stott   Deceleration Valve   Dec 30 2019, 07:41 AM
bdstone914   @Ian Stott For L jet or D jet ? Can you post t...   Dec 30 2019, 08:07 AM
Ian Stott   @Ian Stott For L jet or D jet ? Can you post ...   Dec 30 2019, 09:07 AM
Mark Henry   @Ian Stott For L jet or D jet ? Can you post ...   Jan 3 2020, 08:56 AM
Ian Stott   @Ian Stott For L jet or D jet ? Can you post...   Jan 3 2020, 11:28 AM
bdstone914   [quote name='Mark Henry' post='2774370' date='Jan...   Jan 3 2020, 11:37 AM
Ian Stott   [quote name='Mark Henry' post='2774370' date='Ja...   Jan 3 2020, 12:12 PM
Ian Stott   I thought I would bring this back to the top, as I...   Dec 31 2019, 11:19 AM
timothy_nd28   I was alittle confused reading what you were doing...   Dec 31 2019, 11:54 AM
Highland   Have you tried turning the adjustment screw to loo...   Dec 31 2019, 03:36 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   we try the wd40 first then buy a used one   Dec 31 2019, 04:24 PM
Ian Stott   we try the wd40 first then buy a used one Do you...   Jan 1 2020, 09:45 AM
914werke   RE: Deceleration Valve   Dec 31 2019, 05:29 PM
cary   I have 2 soaking in kerosene right now. I'll d...   Jan 1 2020, 11:04 AM
Ian Stott   I have 2 soaking in kerosene right now. I'll ...   Jan 2 2020, 12:12 PM
cary   I have 2 soaking in kerosene right now. I'll ...   Jan 3 2020, 02:03 PM
rjames   :popcorn: I’ll be interested in your results. I...   Jan 1 2020, 12:24 PM
Rand   I'm curios if you understand why you need it? ...   Jan 2 2020, 01:42 PM
Ian Stott   I'm curios if you understand why you need it?...   Jan 3 2020, 06:05 AM
GregAmy   It doesn't "control the vacuum" (if ...   Jan 3 2020, 07:10 AM
Ian Stott   It doesn't "control the vacuum" (if...   Jan 3 2020, 07:28 AM
GregAmy   OK, so if it's an L-Jet like Mark says, and th...   Jan 3 2020, 12:42 PM
porschetub   OK, so if it's an L-Jet like Mark says, and t...   Jan 3 2020, 03:01 PM
porschetub   OK, so if it's an L-Jet like Mark says, and t...   Jan 5 2020, 01:56 PM
Mark Henry   Ian has a '74 Ljet, complete system and dizzy ...   Jan 3 2020, 01:11 PM
Ian Stott   I appreciate all who chimed in, would like to know...   Jan 3 2020, 02:01 PM
Rand   It's like an appendix. You could just remove i...   Jan 3 2020, 02:08 PM
ClayPerrine   It's like an appendix. You could just remove ...   Jan 5 2020, 07:38 PM
porschetub   It's like an appendix. You could just remove...   Jan 6 2020, 02:04 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='ClayPerrine' post='2775014' date='Ja...   Mar 30 2022, 08:01 PM
GregAmy   I don't know the L-Jet system...but Bruce says...   Jan 3 2020, 02:09 PM
rjames   If the car is backfiring it’s not the decel valv...   Jan 3 2020, 04:27 PM
Bleyseng   My 77 Baywindow Westy has the Ljet with that Decel...   Jan 4 2020, 10:29 AM
JawjaPorsche   One for sale on eBay https://www.ebay.com/itm/Por...   Jan 5 2020, 05:06 PM
porschetub   Classic bad ebay listing ,not the unit we are talk...   Jan 5 2020, 06:31 PM
rjames   Reviving a bit of an old thread and maybe this is ...   Aug 21 2020, 12:40 PM
RandyE   This is a very difficult to get item to get! ...   Mar 5 2022, 09:18 PM
Van B   Randy, I posted about this in a different thread r...   Mar 6 2022, 05:28 PM
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StarBear   Thanks, @Van B!   Mar 30 2022, 03:10 PM
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emerygt350   Egr is actually a really cool (literally) addition...   Mar 30 2022, 06:21 PM
wonkipop   Egr is actually a really cool (literally) additio...   Mar 30 2022, 07:14 PM


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