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> I've been cuttin' some more, rear end is just about gone
URY914
post Dec 6 2004, 08:40 PM
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This weekend I welded the 1 1/4" tube that locates the rear tranny mount. After that I was able to cut out the left side sheet metal. I have a BIG pile of metal left over. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif)


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post Dec 8 2004, 08:01 PM
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J. P.: It actually does handle pretty well if a bit ponderous. I can feel the extra weight of the V8 over the V6 even as I could feel the V6 added poundage over the 4 cyl. It's a bit more sluggish than I like but I think there is enough weight still in the car that, once removed, I can get it working well again. I still have steel doors and decklids... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

The 2.8 was a very good engine. Light weight and the way I had it built it made good power. The car weighed 2140lbs with driver and when launched in 2nd gear reached 7200rpm in Just under 6 seconds.
It was an early '80's block with stock bore and stroke. a Crower solid lifter cam of .485" lift and 225° @ .050 duration with 112° lobe center. I had a ported Edelbrock TorkerII intake manifold, a 390cfm holley 4bbl w/vacuum secondaries and modified S-10 pickup headers. basically that's it. Made 175 hp. Maybe a bit more. There isn't much in the way of speed equipment for the 2.8 but there is enough to make a decent motor.
I used a KEP adapter and 200mm 2700lb clutch. The 2.8 has a wretched reputation with most people but I never had a bit of trouble with any of the 60° V6's I've owned especially this one.

The current engine is a temporary powerplant so I could just get out on track this year. It's a mid 1980's 305 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif) with cast iron heads, a 4bbl and an unknown cam that I had under my bench slated for use in another project. I stuck it in the 914 just to get some autocross time again.
I started building an engine 2 years ago but tragedy struck when I lost my job in October of 2002. The engine project got tabled and the 914 lived on jackstands under a tarp in the garage for almost a year. I kept hope by reading this forum and researching the V8 swap. I've been working now since July of 2003 and started working on the car again in early summer. I used a lot of ideas and advice from here to build the car. I got back on track in July. I ran 8 events and garnered 4 FTD's which was nice but more importantly by the end of the season I got the car somewhat tuned in and actually got what I would consider a few fairly fast runs in.


The new engine is a rev happy 283 .030" over with aluminum heads. That will be in the car for next season. The current 305 is maybe 250hp and is wound tight at 5500rpm. I figure the 283 will be good for 7K easy if I want. The aluminum heads will take high weight off the engine where it needs to be taken off.

I'm looking forward to next season.

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URY914   I've been cuttin' some more   Dec 6 2004, 08:40 PM
URY914   I have to fit the top tube on the right and than I...   Dec 6 2004, 08:41 PM
URY914   So I'm standing there looking at this big hole...   Dec 6 2004, 08:47 PM
Eric Taylor   Man ury, you should just build a tube frame like b...   Dec 6 2004, 08:54 PM
URY914   It's only a autox car, no race tracks. It ne...   Dec 6 2004, 09:15 PM
nebreitling   very cool. scary, but very cool. i'm thinki...   Dec 6 2004, 09:43 PM
Andyrew   Rotary would make it lighter.... right? :lol: sb...   Dec 7 2004, 02:14 AM
skline   How about a Q45 Infinity engine. All aluminum V8 w...   Dec 7 2004, 07:03 AM
airsix   Subaru turbo 4cyl is 40lb lighter than a 2.0 TypeI...   Dec 7 2004, 12:12 PM
URY914     Dec 7 2004, 12:59 PM
Series9     Dec 7 2004, 01:01 PM
URY914     Dec 7 2004, 01:11 PM
Aaron Cox   keep it type 4 dude... lookin good paul :D   Dec 7 2004, 01:13 PM
HarveyH   Just had an idea; in your efforts to lighten the c...   Dec 7 2004, 01:16 PM
URY914   ...   Dec 7 2004, 01:17 PM
URY914     Dec 7 2004, 01:19 PM
Series9     Dec 7 2004, 01:26 PM
Root_Werks   :sawzall: Cool Paul! I would love to see som...   Dec 7 2004, 01:33 PM
Sammy   I'm holding my breath for the honda S2000 guys...   Dec 7 2004, 02:48 PM
MattR   The S2000 engine is GUTLESS below 9k though. That...   Dec 7 2004, 02:55 PM
J P Stein   S2000 motors & trans are regularly available on ev...   Dec 7 2004, 03:15 PM
Sammy   Ayup, the S2000 is way down on torque until it hit...   Dec 7 2004, 05:31 PM
jkeyzer   I drive an EJ20 every day. They have no torque do...   Dec 7 2004, 05:51 PM
MattR     Dec 7 2004, 06:04 PM
lapuwali   The 2.5 turbo is indeed a wonderful engine. My wi...   Dec 7 2004, 06:32 PM
Mike T   Paul, That looks outrageous! I'm looking ...   Dec 7 2004, 07:00 PM
URY914   Mike, where have you been? You have a V6 right? ...   Dec 7 2004, 08:04 PM
Racer Chris     Dec 7 2004, 08:39 PM
URY914     Dec 8 2004, 12:34 PM
J P Stein     Dec 8 2004, 12:41 PM
Mike T   Crap, again...   Dec 8 2004, 12:47 PM
Aaron Cox   Holy crapoly! what size are those rear tires? ...   Dec 8 2004, 12:48 PM
Root_Werks   :o Yes more detials please, that thing looks like...   Dec 8 2004, 12:58 PM
Mike T   it's a 1975 tub still all steel except for the...   Dec 8 2004, 02:42 PM
URY914   Keep it going Mike, Tell me what kind of HP the 2...   Dec 8 2004, 03:54 PM
Root_Werks     Dec 8 2004, 03:56 PM
J P Stein   Holy shit, a V8 car that actually handles AND is u...   Dec 8 2004, 04:01 PM
Brett W   Snag one of the Lexus V8s. 250hp and 260 ftlbs st...   Dec 8 2004, 07:10 PM
Mike T   J. P.: It actually does handle pretty well if a bi...   Dec 8 2004, 08:01 PM
URY914   I've been doing a little research, what do you...   Dec 8 2004, 08:44 PM
Eric_Shea   SHO 24V 6   Dec 8 2004, 09:16 PM
URY914   ...   Dec 8 2004, 09:34 PM
Mike T   I always stuck with the carburator because I wasn...   Dec 8 2004, 10:44 PM
Mike T   If you want to research engine cost and availabili...   Dec 8 2004, 10:50 PM
Brett W   Paul I got all ya'll beat 250Hp for 250-300...   Dec 9 2004, 12:06 AM
Eric_Shea  
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Eric_Shea   nudder   Dec 9 2004, 12:24 AM
Eric_Shea   Here's one tucked away in a hotrod... :wub:   Dec 9 2004, 12:33 AM
Brett W   That SHO engine is an awesome engine. Heard it cou...   Dec 9 2004, 12:43 AM
MJHanna   Look at the North Star engines a lot of dune buggi...   Dec 9 2004, 07:23 AM
ClayPerrine   There was a short lived "supercar" based on the SH...   Dec 9 2004, 07:48 AM
synthesisdv     Dec 9 2004, 08:16 AM
URY914  
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Eric_Shea  
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SteveSr   Awsome Paul. MY GOD, the whole back of the car is ...   Dec 9 2004, 09:49 AM
lapuwali   I'm pretty sure the SHO Festiva was made by Ch...   Dec 9 2004, 12:02 PM
maf914   <...   Dec 9 2004, 12:16 PM
maf914   ...   Dec 9 2004, 12:22 PM
Eric_Shea   1990 Engine Ford Taurus 3.0L;5SP;4DR SDN;SHO;1-90;...   Dec 9 2004, 12:31 PM
SteveSr     Dec 9 2004, 02:50 PM
URY914   Steve, Very intresting... Why did you go with a 3...   Dec 9 2004, 03:14 PM
Root_Werks   Pretend I know nothing. :wacko: But if you use ...   Dec 9 2004, 03:22 PM
scott thacher   subaru svx motor 3.3 liter 240 hp stock, have hear...   Dec 9 2004, 03:53 PM
URY914   Alright, here is another WAI (wild ass idea), How...   Dec 9 2004, 08:25 PM
URY914   Wouldn't this look cool!!! At lea...   Dec 9 2004, 08:26 PM
seanery   Paul, I've thought about that one myself.   Dec 9 2004, 09:07 PM
Series9     Dec 9 2004, 09:16 PM
URY914   http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...79404...   Dec 9 2004, 09:37 PM
URY914   PRETTY...   Dec 9 2004, 09:39 PM
Andyrew   What about intercooler and radiator and such? 450...   Dec 10 2004, 12:55 AM
URY914     Dec 10 2004, 07:33 AM
SteveSr     Dec 10 2004, 12:00 PM
SteveSr   and one more......   Dec 10 2004, 12:01 PM
SteveSr   Paul,I forgot to answer your first question......t...   Dec 10 2004, 02:51 PM
Randal   My local mechanic has two Maserati Bi Turbo cars f...   Dec 10 2004, 06:33 PM


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